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| I have all the respect in the world for Graham as a player but the big clown dint half throw his teddy out. Not shaking a hand after a game is unheard of in rugby league. even senior and Wilkin managed a smile and a hand shake. Big ginge even had a pop mcllennan. Priceless 
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| Could someone get a picture of a dummy / baby and stick it on the saints forum, dont know how to do it. Think it would be priceless.
In a honesty it just sum's the guy up, he wouldnt last 5 mins down under. If the Aussie's have seen this me thinks someone is going to get targeted in the 4 nations.
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| Thought he had a strong game tonight.
Dont really think we are in a strong position to criticise his efforts, he was clearly unhappy about losing and looked like he actually cared unlike some players i could mention.
Call him all you want but we'd be more than happy to have him at Wigan.
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| Quote dany1979="dany1979"Thought he had a strong game tonight.
Dont really think we are in a strong position to criticise his efforts, he was clearly unhappy about losing and looked like he actually cared unlike some players i could mention.
Call him all you want but we'd be more than happy to have him at Wigan.'"
as i stated i have all the respect the world for him as a player and hes far better then any prop we've had a wigan in a long time. But win or lose, punchups or not, shaking your opponents hand after a game is a must, particularly when you consider the battering they put their bodies through. By your argument you'd have to say the rest of the saints team didn't care about losing the league leaders shield tonight because they all shook hands with the leeds players !!!!. Grahams reaction was childish and some immaturity showed through on what was a very strong performance from him on the field.
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| He was high emotion that's all.
Graham would go well in the nrl, if only fielden would show as much of a will to win.he was close to mom tonight.
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| Quote lothlorian="lothlorian"as i stated i have all the respect the world for him as a player and hes far better then any prop we've had a wigan in a long time. But win or lose, punchups or not, shaking your opponents hand after a game is a must, particularly when you consider the battering they put their bodies through. By your argument you'd have to say the rest of the saints team didn't care about losing the league leaders shield tonight because they all shook hands with the leeds players !!!!. Grahams reaction was childish and some immaturity showed through on what was a very strong performance from him on the field.'"
Perhaps that was Grahams point exactly?
He certatnly didnt seem happy with some of his own team mates tonight so perhaps they didnt care enough?
There are a lot of things that can happen on a rugby pitch that more than warrant ignoring the post match hand shake.
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| Leeds targeted him with a lot of dirty play tonight, the chicken wing from Captain Forehead was atrocious, I can certainly understand why he didn't shake hands.
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| Leeds were disgraceful tonight and much as I hate Saints I don't blame Graham for his reaction
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| Quote Drachen Feuer="Drachen Feuer"Leeds targeted him with a lot of dirty play tonight, the chicken wing from Captain Forehead was atrocious, I can certainly understand why he didn't shake hands.'"
I didn't see the incident in question, so can't really comment on it, but I'm of the opinion that you should really shake hands after the game pretty much come what may - it's just a traditional sign of respect for fellow players, even if you have none in the immediate aftermath.
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| Quote Drachen Feuer="Drachen Feuer"Leeds targeted him with a lot of dirty play tonight, the chicken wing from Captain Forehead was atrocious, I can certainly understand why he didn't shake hands.'"
I thought initialy the Graham was trying to grab hold of JJBs arm in order to milk a pen for holding down. upon watching the reply i am still of that opinion, however JJB clearly turns the table on Graham and try's to snap his arm off, which is shocking play.
It was good to see Pilkin geting smashed of Senior mind!, just a shame that Gillmore never banjoed that little worm Smith.
The second best game i have seen all year. my first choice was the first game between these two.
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| Did Eastmond go off injured or was that tactical?
At one point i thought Long was the player most likley to be taken off, some of his passing was more than care free!
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| Quote dany1979="dany1979"Did Eastmond go off injured or was that tactical?
At one point i thought Long was the player most likley to be taken off, some of his passing was more than care free!'" In the first five minutes he had thrown three shockers. I suppose we should give him the benefit of the doubt due to his pirate eye, but actually it has been pretty standard throughout his career.
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