You have no idea how much I'm hoping this bites you on Saturday

Past history suggests I'll be bite mark free.







Although If I am picking a match winner for you guy's, my money's on Lomax.

Comparing Lockers to Wilkin in stats is like comparing apples against oranges, given Wilkin has played more second row or stand off than loose forward. Wilkins stats are impressive, but don't compare favourably to the likes of Hoffman.



Lockers is quietly efficient - the stats don't fully reflect his influence as he often makes the space that others exploit.

I wouldn't swap Lockers for Wilkin in a million years.



Let's see who looks the better player at the end of Saturday's game.



Lockers is world class. He's one of the few world class players in SL.



Only Sam and Roby are better. If Pat can regain his top end speed, he would be too (he was last season). But that's it. No other player in SL is as good as Lockers.

M.O.S



1.Tomkins

2.Monaghan

3.Roby



Young player.



1. Lomax

2. Mossop

3. Briscoe



Coach of the year



Robinson(catalans)

As a Leeds fan, I feel able to comment on MOS entirely as a neutral as we clearly have no credible contenders this year.





The likely candidates for me are Sam Tomkins, Michael Monaghan, Rangi Chase, James Roby.



For me it depends what you're looking for. All 4 have been hugely influential for their teams this year. I would personally eliminate Chase as with him and Tomkins you're largely looking at their attacking threat, and Tomkins is the most effective attacking player in the league.



Stats can tell fibs, but Roby's are certainly impressive and he's been really good whenever I've watched Saints this year. Monaghan has been more quietly efficient, but he's been the pivot when Wire have been at their best and they don't look anything like the same team when he's not playing to me.



Any of the 3 of them would be worthy candidates. Roby already has one MOS he didn'tr really deserve though, so it wouldn't break my heart if he missed out this year.





On the O'Loughlin debate, I think his trouble (if it is a trouble) is that he's the type of player who influences a game in more subtle ways, including his command of the defensive line. I like to think that I watch more critically than most, but even I don't tend to notice him much when he's in opposition. It's when he's in an England/GB shirt and thus "on my side" that he appears more prominently. I haven't always rated him that highly because some of his best attributes are relatively easily missed if you're not watching for them.



He might get a coaches' player of the year, but probably not a players or fans award. That's the nature of what is, effectively a popularity contest. I'm sure if he keeps getting to wave shiny silver trophies around at the business end of the season he'll probably be able to live with it....

If Tomkins wins the MOS, shouldn't he also win the Young Player award seeing as he's eligible for that?

You do know that Sam is eligible for Young Player Of The Year again this year? He was 21 when the season officially started, which unless I'm mistaken is the criteria used. So in theory he could win both

Cracking post.

Still think Wilkin's the best thing since sliced bread? Or willing to admit now that Lockers is better?



As I predicted, we saw yesterday the class of Lockers. What a player.

Sam Tomkins must now be favourite for the award.



I said earlier in the week he comes up with plays that win big games for Wigan in comparison to Roby who works that hard he keeps Saints in games.

Think he's nailed on isn't he? Was outstanding today in defence & attack