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| Quote jinkin jimmy="jinkin jimmy"But we have much the better attendance so where did all that Northampton money come from?'"
Better sponsorship, use of the stadium for conferences etc, bigger prize money, more expensive admission and probably better merchandise sales.
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| Quote jinkin jimmy="jinkin jimmy"But we have much the better attendance so where did all that Northampton money come from?'"
They got to the final of the Heineken Cup which is broadcast over Europe and as a result TV rights to clubs would be high. Also just checking on their site their prices for a normal league match range from £28 for terrace admission and £40 for a seat in the "Tetley Stand".
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"Better sponsorship, use of the stadium for conferences etc, bigger prize money, more expensive admission and probably better merchandise sales.'"
I'm making assumptions here but our attendance could counteract their higher admission prices, prize money will be less than a million and, re merchandising, do they have a bigger fan base than us? What I'm getting at is that not owning your own stadium seriously curtails your ability to generate revenue. I know for a fact that LSV is fairly busy during the day with business meetings in hired out boxes and none of this income finds its way into the sport. It's a different debate but perhaps the ability to generate income from ownership of your own ground could have been made a SL licensing criteria? Developing this idea, all or part of such income could be added to the SC?
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| Warrington generate more revenue from merchandising than Wigan do from a smaller fan base (IL at the shareholders meeting)
Newcastle Falcons did, but we are improving rapidly.
The figure were from 2009, I expect 2010 will be better because of the Wembley factor.
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| Quote TrentBarrett="TrentBarrett"They got to the final of the Heineken Cup which is broadcast over Europe and as a result TV rights to clubs would be high. Also just checking on their site their prices for a normal league match range from £28 for terrace admission and £40 for a seat in the "Tetley Stand".'"
£40  Bugger me
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| Quote Horatio Yed="Horatio Yed"
Hope to god he doesn't get booed playing for England and he does stay in League though.'"
me too, I think enough is enough with the booing. not playing for England anyway.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"[uWarrington generate more revenue from merchandising than Wigan do from a smaller fan base [/u(IL at the shareholders meeting)
Newcastle Falcons did, but we are improving rapidly.
The figure were from 2009, I expect 2010 will be better because of the Wembley factor.'"
TBH I can understand this. Firstly, they have a lot of relatively new fans. Second, they probably all need the larger replica shirts! 
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| Quote Wandering Warrior="Wandering Warrior"£40
Bugger me'"
Is that a proposal ?
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| Quote jinkin jimmy="jinkin jimmy"But we have much the better attendance so where did all that Northampton money come from?'"
I think all RFU sides get a wadge of cash off the RFU but wherever it comes from I think those figures blow away the idea we can't compete on salary to keep players.
What I mean by this is even after a successful season, inflated ticket prices and whatever else gave them their income, they "only" made £801K profit which means they could only afford two "Joel Tomkins" @ £400K a piece before their profit was wiped out. So given they only want our best players if we had central contracts for England players to bump their salaries up it would soon become prohibitively expensive to buy their contracts out.
This means we do not need to simply raise the salary cap across the board and sit there feeling sorry for ourselves because there is not enough money in the game to do that. Having central contracts and improving the wages of the best players could well offer some protection. (As well as paying our players what they deserve). It won't work every time and there are probably richer clubs than Northampton Saints around but the game should certainly consider it IMO.
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| The problem with central contracts for our best players is, who would decide who the best players are? If its the (current) national coach then we would be well and truly fecked!
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| Quote [Gareth="[Gareth"The problem with central contracts for our best players is, who would decide who the best players are? If its the (current) national coach then we would be well and truly fecked!'"
Well someone managed to work out Rads and Cunningham deserved it. If all else fails we could always ask the RFU 
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| Quote [Gareth="[Gareth"The problem with central contracts for our best players is, who would decide who the best players are? If its the (current) national coach then we would be well and truly fecked!'"
There should be a committee to decide such decisions, I think the candidates for it are obvious.
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