Agreed, but it needs a totally different mentality this week to last.



It's backs against the wall time now, so no excuses if we turn up half d in defence again.

Have to agree that we just look knackered. Madge again in his post match interview yesterday refused to blame the fatigue factor but you can just see it.



I’m not saying we can’t do it from here on in, but I would be amazed if we did. Hope the boys prove me wrong.

I don't accept that at all. Look at Leeds. They were at Wembley and have found form since then. They probably aren't good enough to win the GF but that won't be because Wembley took it out of them but just that they don't have the basic quality in the side any more. We do and so you have to ask how come Leeds look on form and we don't.

To be fair to Wigan, Leeds didn't have as tough a route to the final.

I know some of you are saying how jaded your team looks, but at the end of the day, Leeds beat you at a similar stage last year and you came back to win the playoffs.



Hard to see past Wire though, isn't it.

Those games were ages ago now. I just don't think that they can be used to excuse the poor form compared to how Leeds have reacted.

I agree with you, but is there not a case for it being mind over matter for Leeds?



They suffered a massive disappointment in losing at Wembley, again, and clearly don't want that to be the defining 80 minutes of their season.

The Rhinos have taken a lot out the Wembley defeat; the motivation from that game must be a factor; they have done well to fight to the end of the season and will not bow out of the play offs easily.

I'm left speechless that anyone could argue losing at Wembley and winning at Wembley should have the same effect on a team. There is no comparison between the two at all, in any shape or form.



You lose at Wembley, you should be galvanised to get what you can from the rest of the season.



You win at Wembley, it's very tempting to think the season is over (which is obviously wrong, but it's human nature).



It's that simple.

Rugby League is the most physically demanding sport; players need to be mentally at the races to have a chance of competing againts players who may not match up skill wise but will put their bodies on the line to win games.



Wire showed it and the Saints have now shown that Wigan need to be as hungry if not hungrier than their competition and having won a major trophy the mindset of the players needs to change or there will not be a second chance against Saints.

Why is noboby giving saints any credit for their performance? If we would have controlled the ball more early doors in the first half, we could have been 20+ in front.



Our defence was spot on, and we deserved our win. End of. Wigan played aswell as we let them.



We now have the week off, so next week, I would expect Fannery to replace Dixon, Pryce to replace Armstong, and we be fresh and ready to go.



I've said all season we had a win over Wigan comiong, take away the games at widnes, we should have won the other 3.



Where as there is no guarantee that Wigan will beat Catalan, remind me how the 2 games have gone this season?, I'm not saying that Wigan will lose, but it will be one hell of a test. Hopefully a draw then you'll play on until midnight palying golden point.



Saints know how to get to Old Trafford, we just can't win there!!!!!



we'll see anyway, not bad for a team who has played away every week and still hasn't played there first choice 17 in any game this season.



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