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| Bad enough Listening to the Radio and you lot Chanting!!
We Are Top Of The League,
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| Quote FAXE LUCAS="FAXE LUCAS"The rule is if the officials deem it a serious injury the game should be stopped now someone not moving for 60 seconds to me is serious'"
Don't embarrass yourself by confidently stating what the laws of the game are without researching them first, at least throw in a "as far as I'm aware" in there. Otherwise someone like me will come and post what the lawbook which is [url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/~rflmedia/docs/rugby_laws_book_2007_%20(2).pdffreely downloadable to all[/url actually says.
Section 7....
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5. (a)
If the continuance of play endangers an injured player the referee may stop the game.
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And in the same section, under notes
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5. The Referee should endeavour to reduce stoppage to a minimum. Injured players should be removed from the playing field to receive attention as quickly as possible, taking into account the gravity and nature of the injury. Treatment to an injured player, by not more than one attendant, may be permitted while play proceeds if, in the opinion of the Referee, such treatment is not likely to interfere with play.
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So, as I said, the referee is obliged to stop play if the prone player on the ground is at risk of further injury by being "in the way", otherwise, stoppages for injured players in back play is entirely at the referee's discretion as far as the laws of the game are concerned.
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| To be fair, every game would be different if it wasnt on TV.
But thats not the reason you lost today 
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| haha always excuses just admit the better team won. well done widnes see you at hull next week hope u bring a few make a decent atmosphere. unlucky wigan lol
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| You pie eaters lost fair and square, got what you deserved for treating the opposition with such arrogance. Not that anyone is surprised about that.
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| Quote Paul Thexton="Paul Thexton"Don't embarrass yourself by confidently stating what the laws of the game are without researching them first, at least throw in a "as far as I'm aware" in there. Otherwise someone like me will come and post what the lawbook which is [url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/~rflmedia/docs/rugby_laws_book_2007_%20(2).pdffreely downloadable to all[/url actually says.
Section 7....
And in the same section, under notes
So, as I said, the referee is obliged to stop play if the prone player on the ground is at risk of further injury by being "in the way", otherwise, stoppages for injured players in back play is entirely at the referee's discretion as far as the laws of the game are concerned.'"
When it happens to a player way back on the other side of the field I've rarely seen a ref stop the game. Although it's interesting that the law says...
[i"Treatment to an injured player, by not more than one attendant, may be permitted while play proceeds if, in the opinion of the Referee, such treatment is not likely to interfere with play."[/i
what happens if the player needs treatment by more than one attendant, which was the case in this instance. To me that suggests the game should be stopped.
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| Quote Paul Thexton="Paul Thexton"Don't embarrass yourself by confidently stating what the laws of the game are without researching them first, at least throw in a "as far as I'm aware" in there. Otherwise someone like me will come and post what the lawbook which is [url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/~rflmedia/docs/rugby_laws_book_2007_%20(2).pdffreely downloadable to all[/url actually says.
Section 7....
And in the same section, under notes
So, as I said, the referee is obliged to stop play if the prone player on the ground is at risk of further injury by being "in the way", otherwise, stoppages for injured players in back play is entirely at the referee's discretion as far as the laws of the game are concerned.'"
yeah exactly what my point was
The Referee should endeavour to reduce stoppage to a minimum. Injured players should be removed from the playing field to receive attention as quickly as possible, taking into account the gravity and nature of the injury
hence a serious injury requiring a player needing to be removed from the field for treatment should be stopped ASAP the only way he can get off the field is when the game is stopped
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| Quote Paul Thexton="Paul Thexton"Don't embarrass yourself by confidently stating what the laws of the game are without researching them first, at least throw in a "as far as I'm aware" in there. Otherwise someone like me will come and post what the lawbook which is [url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/~rflmedia/docs/rugby_laws_book_2007_%20(2).pdffreely downloadable to all[/url actually says.
Section 7....
And in the same section, under notes
So, as I said, the referee is obliged to stop play if the prone player on the ground is at risk of further injury by being "in the way", otherwise, stoppages for injured players in back play is entirely at the referee's discretion as far as the laws of the game are concerned.'"
yeah exactly what my point was
The Referee should endeavour to reduce stoppage to a minimum. Injured players should be removed from the playing field to receive attention as quickly as possible, taking into account the gravity and nature of the injury
hence a serious injury requiring a player needing to be removed from the field for treatment should be stopped ASAP the only way he can get off the field is when the game is stopped
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| Can anyone Wigan fan come on here and say the best team did not win? No doubt about it as far as I'm concerned. Widnes were fired up, put some big hits in and attacked well. Best team won. All the issues are about the poor team selection. It's true a VR ref would have looked at some of the tries today but ultimately, its not the reason we lost.
A team packed with inexperience against a highly motivated Widnes team that took advantage resulted in the Widnes win. Fair play to 'em.
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| Quote Cherry.Pie="Cherry.Pie"
what happens if the player needs treatment by more than one attendant, which was the case in this instance. To me that suggests the game should be stopped.'"
I'd say so, too. But there's nothing in the official law book that states play should otherwise be stopped in any particular circumstance other than the player being put at risk of further injury by being close to the action. So technically, though it's annoying when it happens (see my quoted example of a Wire player down injured against London in Brentford), there's nothing in the rules that states the referee [ihas[/i to stop the game for treatment to an injured player in backplay. It's entirely a referee's discretion thing, with his only directive being to reduce the length of stoppages to a minimum.
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| Quote Paul Thexton="Paul Thexton"
otherwise, stoppages for injured players in back play is entirely at the referee's discretion as far as the laws of the game are concerned.'"
This Is the bit I don't like... On another day a different ref may very well have stopped play in that situation... and thing's would have been very different. a stretcher had been called on and there was around 4 or 5 people treating Goulding. However I'm not going to blame that one incident for our loss.. we were beaten by the better team, But I do think there needs to be some definitive rule one way or the other because I honestly don't think some referee's are capable of using their "discretion" in the right way...
Although like someone else has said elsewhere... It wasn't Hicks fault that all the Wigan players decided to stay on the other side of the field and not cover where Goulding would have been. leaving the biggest overlap known to man.
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| Quote Paul Thexton="Paul Thexton"I'd say so, too. But there's nothing in the official law book that states play should otherwise be stopped in any particular circumstance other than the player being put at risk of further injury by being close to the action. So technically, though it's annoying when it happens (see my quoted example of a Wire player down injured against London in Brentford), there's nothing in the rules that states the referee [ihas[/i to stop the game for treatment to an injured player in backplay. It's entirely a referee's discretion thing, with his only directive being to reduce the length of stoppages to a minimum.'"
Of course, there's no point complaining about it as it's just one of those things that can go against you during games. It was a turning point when they scored but Wigan should have put the game to bed by then.
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