Wane would of learnt a lot from yesterday regarding the youngsters and how far he can take it when resting a few players. Its a game we should of won but its not the end of the world. I would rather sacrifice the two points yesterday and get a good idea how some of the younger players are compared to bottom end super league opposition and in the process improve our chances of having our best team on the field come play off times.



Some Wiganers need to realise the competition has changed. The full steam ahead in every match system is not the best way of winning this championship anymore. We need to move with the times if we want to keep picking up trophies.



Im more dissapointed with the fact some of our younger guys werent up to beating Widnes.

Keep Fielden....are you feeling ok?

He had the right idea but should have had a plan B. Simple as that.

Exactly.

if wane really thinks he did the right thing to blood so manny youngsters against lower league opposition then surley he will keep the same team for our next trip to london! but im willing to bet he deosn't. it was a stupid experiment that went wrong one or two youngsters ok but five what where you thinking.

I'd agree with this. Maybe Sam or Lockers on the bench or Gelling Russell on the bench to start with. That being said they did well to get into 2 leads which Widnes shouldn't have come back from. I wouldn't expect Widnes to put 19 unanswered points on Hunslet in 20 mins of rugby.

You lives and learns i suppose, the fans want to see us winning not having freindlies or trial games for the younger players.

Ive seen great post on another sight, stating Mcguire wanted to win every game and would be ultra professional in how he gets to that is wane saying Wigan are prepared to not to do it this way and moving away from this ultra professional winning attitude

I don't see what all the fuss is about yesterday's team selection. If we'd won, nobody would have batted an eyelid and we'd all be banging on about how great our youngsters are. Fact is we let an 18 point lead go and i'd be more concerned about that, not the players we had out on the park. They were obviously good enough to to give Widnes a game, but not close it out...

He has said we had a couple of injuries [iand[/i he needed to see how some young players go. No he didn't. A sensible coach would have used the opportunity of a couple of injuries to try a couple of young players. Not put more than he needed to in the side which already out of necessity included the inexperienced Hughes. There was simply no actual [ineed[/i to do what he did at all. A couple of young players v Widnes and a couple of different ones v London would have told him far more than the rather pointless exercise of replacing half the team.



He screwed up and that is all there is too it.







You seem to have a very short memory of how we approached the regular season in 2010 and 2011. Given the "full steam ahead approach" is exactly what Madge did I would say you are completely wrong here. We won the GF when we won the league and won the CC when we finished second. We had a coach who didn't adopt the "full steam ahead approach" in Brian Noble. He was always telling us the competition started in August and we won nothing under him. It seems it is you who have not moved with the times and prefer the Noble approach rather than the one Madge used that brought is success.



Wigan moved with the times by appointing Madge who clearly set out to win every game by picking teams that could do so. Wane's contention that this is what he did v Widnes is a joke. Madge never once risked a loss by deliberately resting as many senior pros as Wane did v Widnes.

We also fell at the last hurdle last year because Maguire failed to rotate the squad well enough and had absolutely no plan B, particularly when it came to replacing Deacon which needed to be done much earlier, as opposed to the last couple of games.



Wane can't go in with the mentality of picking the best squad every week because Madge made that impossible. We don't know enough about how the young players will cope so Wane will have to give as many young players as possible as many chances as possible this year otherwise we're screwed next year.



He was a few senior players short against Widnes and he will know that, but he said the players on the pitch had the ability to win the game and they did. A lot of those players underperformed and he was wrong to think that a team good enough to beat Widnes would necessarily do so when asked to. I'd be very surprised if he made so many changes again but I'm glad he pushed his luck on this occasion, rather than doing it further down the line.

MM mistake last season was not to rest players before the very last game of the regular season just after the CC final. That was August we are now in early March and resting now will have no effect for August. The season before we did not rest so many players at any time of the season and finished top and won the Grand Final. And that GF wining season MM blooded a few young players every so often and that worked well.



People trying to draw any sort of comfort by the direct comparison as what happened last season and now are greatly mistaken. How are we screwed next year Apart from TL, maybe Finch, Carmont none of the players leaving have not got a direct replacement ready in that position. Lockers will stay Fielden is replaced by Mossop and Macilorum will stay as well. Roberts, Fielden, Marsh, Tuson are not guranteed first team spots even if fully fit. Apart from TL, Finch and Carmont the side will be almost the same as this season.



Given that game was a good game apparently to blood some young players i take it that most would be very happy to see the same side out on Sunday against the Broncos given they are on the same points and Widnes and are just as poor. So its an ideal opportunity to have them have another game in SL as after all points are meaningless and the comp starts in September. So how many would be happy to lose to Broncos this weeked with the same side out as yesterday. Given what people post on here i bet some would be happy if SW did the samething again. After all we are guranteed top 4 arent we.



We will know if SW thinks he has made an error yesterday if he plays the best side he can. Or if he thinks he is right he will play the same side again.

Playing just a couple of youngsters would of been very easy for them with all our stars carrying them. You need to let these lads stand on their own two feet and let them show what they are capable of. I have no doubt they were good enough to beat Widnes but they didnt play well enough and let Wane down.



When we won the GF we got knocked out of the challenge cup and had rest time. We also had a new system and suprised a lot of teams and blew teams away early and took the rest of the game easy, once people cottoned on it wasnt as easy. We have to plan for going all the way in both competitions and rotating the squad will help this. Last season come the play offs we looked dead on our feet.