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| The theory is good, we all need to know how the younger players will be able to perform in SL, it's just in this case the practice didn't work out after 80 minutes....who honestly thought that would be the case with 20 minutes to go, and a 3 score lead?
I've always been of the viewpoint that you try to finish as high in the table as possible, thereby, in theory again, making it less stressful to win through to the GF. Although Leeds bucked that theory last season, how many honestly think that will become a regular happening?
We always fell short under Brian Noble because we were having to do it the hard way every time.
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| Quote Wandering Warrior="Wandering Warrior"
Im more dissapointed with the fact some of our younger guys werent up to beating Widnes.'"
The only reason this debate about disrespect has come up is because Wigan lost.
Raper did this against Saints picking four 17 year olds in an Easter derby but nobody said that was disrespecting the game because Wigan won, it was hailed as a great sign for Wigan's youth system.
I also seem to remember in our worst season of 2002 when David Plange had just taken over a coach we went to Wigan and got smashed by 50 points against a Wigan team with about 9 first teamers out because Wigan had the Challenge Cup the next week...nobody said that was disrespect either!
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| Quote sally cinnamon="sally cinnamon"The only reason this debate about disrespect has come up is because Wigan lost.
Raper did this against Saints picking four 17 year olds in an Easter derby but nobody said that was disrespecting the game because Wigan won, it was hailed as a great sign for Wigan's youth system.
I also seem to remember in our worst season of 2002 when David Plange had just taken over a coach we went to Wigan and got smashed by 50 points against a Wigan team with about 9 first teamers out because Wigan had the Challenge Cup the next week...nobody said that was disrespect either!'"
Correct, had we of won yesterday there would of been no talk about taking Widnes lightly or disrespecting them as some are suggesting.
I wasn't able to attend the game yesterday but was receiving updates whilst at work. To be quite honest although disappointed with the loss, receiving messages that the younger players had actually played pretty well seems as though Wane did the right thing, it shouldn't really be taken away from the defeat because of the players that was missing. Maybe Widnes should be getting some credit as well for their part in coming from behind twice?
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| Quote sally cinnamon="sally cinnamon"The only reason this debate about disrespect has come up is because Wigan lost.
Raper did this against Saints picking four 17 year olds in an Easter derby but nobody said that was disrespecting the game because Wigan won, it was hailed as a great sign for Wigan's youth system.
I also seem to remember in our worst season of 2002 when David Plange had just taken over a coach we went to Wigan and got smashed by 50 points against a Wigan team with about 9 first teamers out because Wigan had the Challenge Cup the next week...nobody said that was disrespect either!'"
Not quite correct Raper had no choice with the side he had major injuries whilst SW had a choice.
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| Quote tank123="tank123"Not quite correct Raper had no choice with the side he had major injuries whilst SW had a choice.'"
Correct. Our first team backs were decimated that day.
Radlinski, Carney, Dallas all missing through injury.
Not the same whatsoever.
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| Because finishing top no longer matters, clubs will risk losing 2 points to blood a few youngsters incase they are needed in the 'real' games - the playoffs.
27 regular season matches now barely matter, and its us fans who pay the price. £250 pound plus to watch 13 semi-meaningful games that are effectively pre-season friendlies until the season really starts in September. If you had to finish top to be Champions, every minute of every game is important. So its me and 3,500 Wiganers who paid and travelled to the match who suffers. Eventually regular season crowds will suffer. Even the team at Sky Sports on Friday night were saying Wire wouldn't be that bothered about losing - Eddie even asked Brian McDermott was he bothered about where he finished in the league!!!!
Thank you RFL and Sky Sports for ruining our game and brainwashing the masses.
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| Quote Father Ted="Father Ted"O'Brien has a good kicking game with field kicking and attempts at goal.
No one doubts his ability but Warrington should be spelling someone as good as him into their first team on a regular basis.
Wane just over did the "introducing youngsters" theory today and paid the price.'" o'brien had several run outs for the wire last season until he broke his leg, he's getting a little match time in now, i admit it's only against wigan but hey you can't have everything!
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| Whether Wigan actually disrespected Widnes or not is a matter of opinion.
For sure Wane overdid it, but young players need to be blooded, and better to do it against a side at the bottom of the table than one near the top.
But did he actually 'disrespect' Widnes.
The side he selected ran into big leads on two occasions. It doesn't seem totally unreasonable that he felt they had it in them to win. Losing an 18-point lead in the second half can't be 100% laid at Wane's door. He wasn't out there missing tackles. The fact that Widnes won by only one point hardly indicates that the team sent out to meet them was some kind of insult.
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| Can we keep Marsh?
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| Quote Viva La Vikings!!="Viva La Vikings!!"Can we keep Marsh?'"
Rumour has it that he may be heading to Saints next season.
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| Quote Viva La Vikings!!="Viva La Vikings!!"Can we keep Marsh?'"
Yes.
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"Whether Wigan actually disrespected Widnes or not is a matter of opinion.
For sure Wane overdid it, but young players need to be blooded, and better to do it against a side at the bottom of the table than one near the top.
But did he actually 'disrespect' Widnes.
The side he selected ran into big leads on two occasions. It doesn't seem totally unreasonable that he felt they had it in them to win. Losing an 18-point lead in the second half can't be 100% laid at Wane's door. He wasn't out there missing tackles. The fact that Widnes won by only one point hardly indicates that the team sent out to meet them was some kind of insult.'"
I think the fact some of the players picked hadnt played at that level this season, there was an inevitability that fatigue would play a part add to this the reduced subs and you compund the problem, the coaches job is to plan for this and put in a contingency and thats where wane IMO went wrong
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