Exactly. It's not just a matter of a better paid job coming along or whatever clubs sign coaches with a plan in mind to achieve long term success. That is certainly why he was signed and as you say recruitment will have been based on what he wants so to get the players signed and the team he wants in place then leave is where the problem lies if this is what happens.







Well if he can get out of it after so short a time it wasn't a very well drafted one!

I think the most important thing for you Wiganers to remember is that, even if he leaves, MM has reminded you of what high standards a big club can/should expect from their team, something that your previous half dozen coaches, Noble included, have failed to do.



Those high standards will permutate through the club and will last after he's gone. If the next coach builds on that, you'll carry on as a top force in the league.

If he is leaving to take up a top job in the NRL as is rumoured it would be naive to think there is anything more too it than that.

All this speculation must be very disruptive to the team/coaching staff, which might explain our indifferent form for the last three weeks as it coincides with when the rumours began. This issue needs addressing officially by the club so that we can draw a line under it & focus on retaining our Super League title and winning the Challenge Cup. The longer this drags on, the more disruptive it becomes.

I doubt it was a two + one year contract. Sporting contracts have all manner of clauses that rightly are private, e.g. footballers being allowed to leave if an offer for £Xm comes in etc. Looks like Madge had a clause re a NRL club coming in for him, that he may not have come in the first place had we not agreed.

Very well said



I see no reason why McGuire won't see out the remainder of this year, even if the players know he is going at the end of the year. The presence of Wane should ensure that he doesn't 'lose the dressing room', as players will want to stay in his plans for the following year.



Hopefully McGuire can continue to teach Wane everything he knows for the rest of the year.

In which case it was a risk that may well have backfired and a poor bit of negotiation from IL given Madge was an assistant coach not an established top NRL coach. He ought not to have been in a position to make such demands given he had no reputation as a first grade coach.



I am sure we were all expecting Madge to build on last seasons success and set things in place for the longer term. One and a bit seasons is not enough for that IMO. If as looks likely he leaves I think both Madge for going and IL and the club for allowing this to happen have let the fans down big time.

Dave, you're being quite judgemental there, and yet have no real basis for it.



We're all in agreement that this is a problem and needs to be sorted one way or the other. But I don't think you should let frustation and disappointment cloud reality.



The argument that Maguire may not have come at all without special opt-out clauses needs to be taken seriously. This is all speculation at present, but you can't simply dismiss the possibility that Maguire didn't want to come over here and needed a deal weighed heavily in his favour. Regardless of whether he was a head coach or an assistant - he clearly is (and was) one of the brightest coaching talents in the game. He was highly recommended to us by Bennett and Bellamy. Russell Crowe hasn't swooped for him purely because he was successful with Wigan. It may well be the case that we did very well indeed to get this guy for any period of time.



It's a big thing to move to a backwater like Britain, where you'll be subject to Kear and Agar type jealousy, and will have chairmen and even journalists tacitly agreeing with them, especially if you've got a young family who you want to grow up the Aussie way. And if you're a top talent on top of that, I'd imagine that it's even more difficult. I seem to remember that IL described lengthy negotiations with Maguire. Maybe he had no choice but to give away more than he wanted, when the alternative was keeping Nobby for another couple of years.



And it's far too early to say IL and MM have let the fans down. In fact it's very churlish. For Heavne's sake, they won us our first Grand Final since 1998!

We gave him his break in rugby league management , we offered him a chance to make a name for himself which he has, to walk out after 16 months is very disappointing. A total shock. IL should offer him double what souths offer tbh, i dont think Wane would make much of a head coach yet, hopefully im wrong though.

Well Warrington Fans Are all over it now on there board !!

I wouldn't say it's panic. The bigger issue here is the rampant speculation from all parts of the media. It has to be distracting to the players if every time they open a newspaper or view anything RL-related online and they see an article saying that the coach at their club is leaving. That's my biggest concern, especially seeing as all these rumours starting has coincided with our recent dip in form

Given Maguire's reputation in Oz before he came and has been proved last season it was a risk worth taking. To trigger the clause he was always going to have to do well (so it was still going to be in Wigan's interests to agree), he just did much better than anyone could have hoped in the first year. Yes it's disappointing but it looks like he'll be here for two years to help hand over the reins to Wane who deserves his chance.



It was obvious he was using Wigan as a stepping stone to get a NRL job, and it looks like he's got a high profile "project" to make his mark. He's ambitious and I'm not going to criticise him for that as I'd have done exactly the same in his position.