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| Quote Tricky2309="Tricky2309"Is hampshire injured? If not surprised he wasn't on the bench as offers you that spark in attack'"
I'd have thrown him in there as well, think he might have been able to open them up better. Certainly a better bench option than an injured McIlorum!
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| Huddersfield played really well and used the full width of the pitch, their kicking game was excellent. They deserved their win no doubt. I haven't watched the game back yet, but it seemed to lack intensity.
The Bowen incident was straight in front of me. He appeared to take Grix out, after he'd kicked ( I thought that was now a yellow card?) It was also high but with the flat of the hand. If he submits an early guilty plea he will probably get a one game ban. However here is the question. If that is the case should that ban be served v New Zealand Warriors or the next Superleague game?
I should add that Huddersfield also defended superbly.
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| Tonight our pack was crying out for mossop hansen and lockers( i know lockers was injured btw)
Maybe this is the season where replacing quality with projects finally catches up with us?
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| Micky Mac was waste of a bench spot. What Wane could possibly learn from that he could not on the training ground I don't know.
Conceding three tries on the last tackle was a woeful defensive effort. Their fourth try was a try four passes from touchdown as well.
The goal kicking [iand also[/i the drop outs are a big issue I don't know how we are going to address.
Bowen looked good, Taylor looked good the rest were outplayed man for man.
Yes it's a new team but that is the clubs fault for selling half of last seasons winning side.
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| Huddersfield did a job on us tonight - tackled well, kicked well, won the forward battle, then targeted Thornley.
Simple and effective, especially as the team as a whole looked they were somewhere else at times - the plane tomorrow.
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"Micky Mac was waste of a bench spot. What Wane could possibly learn from that he could not on the training ground I don't know.
Conceding three tries on the past tackle was a woeful defensive effort. Their fourth try was a try four passes from touchdown as well.
The goal kicking [iand also[/i the drop outs are a big issue I don't know how we are going to address.
Bowen looked good, Taylor looked good the rest were outplayed man for man.
Yes it's a new team but that is the clubs fault for selling half of last seasons winning side.'"
I thought Taylor was the clear stand-out for Wigan, he looked in a different class to the rest of the Wigan pack and apart from the high tackle Bowen looked solid and will only get better as the conditions improve.
I disagree with what was said on Sky tonight about that being a tough effort for Huddersfield - I thought they beat us with ease and if anything the game should of been over at half-time.
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| Quote dany1979="dany1979"I thought Taylor was the clear stand-out for Wigan, he looked in a different class to the rest of the Wigan pack and apart from the high tackle Bowen looked solid and will only get better as the conditions improve.
I disagree with what was said on Sky tonight about that being a tough effort for Huddersfield - I thought they beat us with ease and if anything the game should of been over at half-time.'"
Yes I was impressed with Taylor. He is so strong with his legs and carries players with him. He needed someone along side him as effective tonight and none of them were. It wasn't helped with Lockers late withdrawal and the changes that brought but that is no excuse.
Bowen looked good, rush of blood to the head aside.
Other than that I don't think anyone did their selection chances much good for the games down under. Apparently Wane thinks Powell was the only player who came out with any credit. I can't say I agree. He tried hard but was not strong enough in defence and added little spark to the attack.
There was a huge hole in the first half on the right of Wigan's defence that I was amazed Hudds didn't just walk through.
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| Quote dany1979="dany1979" I thought they beat us with ease and if anything the game should of been over at half-time.'"
If Brough had have had his 'kicking boots' on, it would have been.
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| Quote fleabag="fleabag"If Brough had have had his 'kicking boots' on, it would have been.'"
True.
We turn up like that in Sydney and we will be slaughtered.
Another huge test for Wane to get this right quickly.
You can perhaps see now why he wanted to bring in another forward with the Patrick rumours.
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| I don't know whether it was Hudds defence being impressive or our attack being slow and predictable (likely both) but we looked like were were playing against 14 men all night. They had us at least man-to-man on every play.
We didn't help ourselves by reverting to a drop-off every other play of every set. What's all that about? We've just spun it wide, tried to stretch them (and failed) so we play the drop off and let them get set for our next play. No wonder we looked outnumbered!
Our defence also left a lot to be desired. A couple of very soft tries were we either didn't have the numbers (no excuse as they hadn't really ran any plays that should have stretched us that much, probably more a communication issue) or we simply grabbed at shirts instead of putting the shoulder in.
On Bowen: I wasn't impressed. Looked out of position all night. Favored he was new to full back! He also seemed to be fixing for a fight after he got hit late and it nearly cost him a card (and will very likely cost him a game, albeit against NZW). Cut it out!
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| Not sure I agree with Wane in relation to Sam Powell, I thought he was poor. He gave his all worked his socks off but gave us no direction and his delivery was very average.
Taylor when he got involved looked top notch, he is going to be a great player as he matures, but for me he did not get involved enough.
Our halves did not look interested apart from 10 minutes at the start of the second half, and Wane picking McIllorum was pointless, Hampshire, Tomkins, Williams should all have been considered if he had no intention of using McIllorum, wast of a bench spot.
Only real positives for me were Sarginson who looks a very good pick up, I was not sure about him, he showed early promise but stagnated in London, but early signs are good, and Joe Burgess who looks every bit a top notch prospect.
Thornely did himself no favours at all.
Still it is early days, I think this trip to Australia is a major distraction and we will see the real Wigan when they return.
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| I think Wane got the backs wrong, I would've liked to have seen Burgess outside Sarginson and Thornley on Gouldings wing. Either wing-centre partnership just didnt compliment each other well IMO and that was our biggest failure near the try line. Pettybourne should have been coming on from the bench and we also missed O'Loughlin ridiculously, he is the key to our success without doubt.
At the WCC id like to see (if charnleys fit)
Bowen/Hampshire (depending on a ban)
Charnley Goulding Sarginson Burgess
Green Smith
Taylor McIlorum Flower
Farrell Clubb
O'Loughlin
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