He had harder opposition too though IMO. Anyway, I've no idea where you think we will sign these players we deserve from. When an opportunity did present itself (Melbourne's cap issues) he bought three top players in Lima, Hoffman and Finch to replace Coley, Bailey and Phelps. The salary cap, combined with the relative wealth of the NRL clubs, prevents us from signing top NRL players, same with RU. There are hardly any good players at teams outside the top 5 in SL, and the good players at top 5 clubs in SL are only likely to move in order to go to the NRL, not to another top side. What do you expect him to do? I've yet to see Leeds, Wire, Saints or Huddersfield land any big names in the last 4 years either

Absolutely not. I was in fact one of the first to voice the opinion that he was taking us nowhere fast.



Got the usual "negative" comments about that but was proved right in the end.

They didn't look that good under Noble. He got them playing far better and so his tenure was as clear an indication as you could want for the influence a coach can have on a group of players.

A coach and a very good one is the difference between winning team and a mediocre team. Just look at Man United without Alex Ferguson clueless against Liverpool and Chelsea. All we can hope that Wane and the team have an on and of switch as the performance and i do agree against a poor Hull side was the best we had in weeks.



Onw way or another in the next week or 2 we will know that Wane is a Genius or a village idiot in charge.

That's not the issue. The comparison was between Wane and Madge.

Well we will know if he has a brain, that's for sure.

I would love to see how your CV as a professional RL player and coach measures up against his, seems you would have been a much better choice as coach.. IL missed a trick there!!



IL OUT!!!

But neither have they lost players in anything like the same quantity that we have and are continuing to do. And they have also picked up the odd nugget in Ratchford, Moon, Hill, Ferres all of whom would have done well for us.

But using that logic means you would be happy with anyone who has a better CV than you. Now, I don't know if you have been a pro player or coach but, even if you have I would assume James Lowes has a better CV. Would you be happy with him as coach, for example?

Huh?



You really ought to stop your vitriol and bitterness getting in the way of you making a sensible post....

We've also picked up the odd nugget of similar calibre to those mentioned. We are losing a lot of players granted but this idea that BrettKenny keeps putting forward that the reason we don't sign top players is because IL won't pay up is completely without evidence.

Leeds and Warrington for example, don't have players that are "wanted", most are either very good club men, or too old to be of interest to the NRL. This idea that Hetherington is holding out against the NRL is flawed thinking to my mind..



I take your point on the players you mentioned, but they are hardly the world beaters and of the calibre some on here expect us to be signing...