The bookies have this one about right and may even be a little generous if you fancy a flutter on the green and golds.



Aussie 1/6

England 7/2



Surely this one is a foregone conclusion

eh, how is this match a "foregone conclusion"? Not sure 30k+ people are going to turn up to see everyone going through the motions.



sure, we are not favourites to win by any stretch but we have a fair chance of victory even though history says otherwise.



there seems to be an ongoing negativity with posters on here.

There is a chance of beating them, tempered by a rather greater chance of not beating them.



It's do-able, but would require an almost perfect performance right across the park, and I don't believe we can expect that.

If we have the numpty in charge the last time we played them then no as Aussies will nulify any quick plays with laying on and ref will allow it. As for the serious fowl play will probably turn a blind eye to that. If we get a strong ref who doesn't stand for any of it then think we will win.

I agree, I hope the referee isn't a chicken.

We will be in it for 25 minutes and they'll get 40........

Anyone know who's going to be reffing the game ?

We've had southern hemisphere refs for our games against NZ and Aus so far, so what chance a Super League ref ?

At least we might get a faster play the ball.

Tim Sheens more or less.

Your right Al, he certainly gets plenty of input into how and who should ref the matches and like a dog wanting its tummy tickling, the RFL just roll over.

Its time they became somewhat stronger.

Shock horror, Matt Ceccin gets the gig.



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All four paws in the air and tail wagging frantically - nice one Mr Sheens

That's your quick ptb's screwed then, together with any chance of getting the 50/50 calls.