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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"I have to agree with you Vastman. It is a big if of course as we don't know whether they are just trying it on but if they have been mistreated they deserve their day in court. I can't imagine Diane walking into a similar role anywhere else so it will be important to her.
Saying that, I agree with Clan as well that I can't see why they think they do have a case.'"
Me neither but Franny lost his job and may have a case...who knows.
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| Quote Khlav Kalash="Khlav Kalash"Tit for tat with respect to the apparent legal case perusing a £44K payment made to specific staff members early this year (as per the administration report)?'"
In one. We've got it and you can't have it back !! The payments were obviously made during the period that the club announced it was going into administration and it being ratified in court a week or so later. No payments are legally allowed during that period.
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| Personally I would let them in, on the proviso one of them brings the deeds to B.V back.
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| Quote vastman="vastman"Me neither but Franny lost his job and may have a case...who knows.'"
I was under the impression that Franny Stephenson declined the offer of a job under the new regime. If that is the case I don't see how he would have a case, as for the Richardson / Maskill's if they were listed as directors or board members then surely they would be limited to any action they could take.
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"I have to agree with you Vastman. [uIt is a big if of course as we don't know whether they are just trying it on [/ubut if they have been mistreated they deserve their day in court. I can't imagine Diane walking into a similar role anywhere else so it will be important to her.
Saying that, I agree with Clan as well that I can't see why they think they do have a case.'"
 The Richardsons trying it on, whatever next 
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| Quote vastman="vastman"What a petty small minded fool your post shows you to be
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It must have been a difficult post for you to compose, 12 little words and you still had to edit it 
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| As much as vastman's rant about the righting of wrongs and people who have been badly treated deserving their day in court may feel like natural justice, in my experience, employment law is far from that eutopian state; just about anyone who loses their job or even leaves of their own accord thesedays can, if they're that way inclined, bring a claim to the Employment Tribunal and more often than not, those claims are accepted by the Tribunal and have to be dealt with, spurious or otherwise.
Defending an ET claim is a costly, stressful and extremely onerous task for any employer, particularly small to medium companies or sole traders who almost certainly won't have the expertise in-house, and there's a whole industry of 'employment advisors' and similar odious legal types who know that and will represent these claimants on a no win no fee basis, knowing full well that most employers will offer to pay something due to the nuisance value, even if they know they haven't done anything wrong. Many people say they want to fight the claim 'on principle', until they realise that having principles costs a serious amount of cash.
In short - if you were a Richardson clan member and you went to an 'employent advisor' and told them what had happened during and after the takeover, they'd be filling out an ET1 before you could blink; whether the claims have any merit remains to be seen, but you can bet your backside that defending them will be a massive distraction from the business in hand. This mind you, from the people who said not so long ago that everything they'd ever done had been in the best interests of Wakefield Trinity.
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| In my work experience,it's supriseing how many get rewarded for failure.
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"As much as vastman's rant about the righting of wrongs and people who have been badly treated deserving their day in court may feel like natural justice, in my experience, employment law is far from that eutopian state; just about anyone who loses their job or even leaves of their own accord thesedays can, if they're that way inclined, bring a claim to the Employment Tribunal and more often than not, those claims are accepted by the Tribunal and have to be dealt with, spurious or otherwise.
Defending an ET claim is a costly, stressful and extremely onerous task for any employer, particularly small to medium companies or sole traders who almost certainly won't have the expertise in-house, and there's a whole industry of 'employment advisors' and similar odious legal types who know that and will represent these claimants on a no win no fee basis, knowing full well that most employers will offer to pay something due to the nuisance value, even if they know they haven't done anything wrong. Many people say they want to fight the claim 'on principle', until they realise that having principles costs a serious amount of cash.
In short - if you were a Richardson clan member and you went to an 'employent advisor' and told them what had happened during and after the takeover, they'd be filling out an ET1 before you could blink; whether the claims have any merit remains to be seen, but you can bet your backside that defending them will be a massive distraction from the business in hand. This mind you, from the people who said not so long ago that everything they'd ever done had been in the best interests of Wakefield Trinity.'"
[size=150YAWN[/size whatever - patronising - self serving - Tory - bore
B*llocks, you mean it stops greedy employers (99%) exploiting their employees - disgusting attitude.
For Little Waynes benefit my computers knackered hence the edits.
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| Quote little wayne69="little wayne69"It must have been a difficult post for you to compose, 12 little words and you still had to edit it
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ha ha ha hilarious - no really - you are a very funny guy.
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| Quote vastman="vastman"[size=150YAWN[/size whatever - patronising - self serving - Tory - bore

B*llocks, you mean it stops greedy employers (99%) exploiting their employees - disgusting attitude.'"
Stop it vasty, you can do better than that - last week you were the lord of the manor, talking down to the lower classes, this week you're a militant prole, defending the rights of the oppressed working man!
Unlike your good self, I'm actually speaking from experience, rather than just spouting the opposite of what other people say and passing it of as my opinion.
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"As much as vastman's rant about the righting of wrongs and people who have been badly treated deserving their day in court may feel like natural justice, in my experience, employment law is far from that eutopian state; just about anyone who loses their job or even leaves of their own accord thesedays can, if they're that way inclined, bring a claim to the Employment Tribunal and more often than not, those claims are accepted by the Tribunal and have to be dealt with, spurious or otherwise.
Defending an ET claim is a costly, stressful and extremely onerous task for any employer, particularly small to medium companies or sole traders who almost certainly won't have the expertise in-house, and there's a whole industry of 'employment advisors' and similar odious legal types who know that and will represent these claimants on a no win no fee basis, knowing full well that most employers will offer to pay something due to the nuisance value, even if they know they haven't done anything wrong. Many people say they want to fight the claim 'on principle', until they realise that having principles costs a serious amount of cash.
In short - if you were a Richardson clan member and you went to an 'employent advisor' and told them what had happened during and after the takeover, they'd be filling out an ET1 before you could blink; whether the claims have any merit remains to be seen, but you can bet your backside that defending them will be a massive distraction from the business in hand. This mind you, from the people who said not so long ago that everything they'd ever done had been in the best interests of Wakefield Trinity.'"
The problem with most issues of this nature these days is that whenever the lawmakers try to make the filing of claims more open and accessible for genuine claimants, they also open the door to the dishonest ones. As you've stated, depending on the size of the claim, it's often better for an employer to concede, rather than contest. Sadly, the genuine claimants and the dishonest ones get lumped together as far as public perception of the matter is concerned. Without full possession of the facts, though, it would be wrong for anyone here to assume any claim by former employees is dishonest or otherwise, until all the facts are known.
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