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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"If we were talking like for like facilities at either venue, then BV wins hands down.
However, new purpose built stadium over dated crumbling ground, Newmarket wins every time.
So it really depends what the options are.
[uIF Sir Rodney can get the stadium sorted at NM then that would still be the way forward.
As Vasty has said, the potential for increased income would make it a far better option.[/u
Just to add something else to the debate, how many old grounds would we prefer to go to, out of:
Wilderspool
Central Park
Boulevard
Craven Park
Naughton Park
Knowlsley Road
Fartown
The Willows
Apart from nostalgia, all of the new grounds are a vast improvement on what was there before and in
20 years time, new memories will replace the old.
Although we will all have fond memories of visiting The Boulevard or Central Park etc, the new stadia
are in all cases a vast improvement.'"
As you and vasty say there is potential there for an increase in attendances' and all the extra revenue that go with it but there are no guarantees' this will happen, attendances have dropped alarmingly at Wakey as well as across SL in general with the odd exception, of the eight clubs you have mentioned Widnes and HKR haven't moved just had work done on them with no visible increase in attendances' Shudds gates have dropped Wire having got increased gates when they first moved have not improved, Hull Wigan and Saints agreed as for Salford there just abysmal full stop, but one thing they all have in common except arguably Salford is that they all have moved just round the corner, whereas we would be moving what 8 miles' from BV and even further for a lot more, there is a good argument for a lot of fans' wanting to stay where we are.
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| I'm just going to quote a post I made earlier in another thread
Quote The Avenger="The Avenger"Agreed, and I've said before, if Wigan, Huddersfield, Sts or anybody who's left their spiritual home had the chance to go back and totally redevelop that ground rather than move to another location I'm sure they'd all take it.
If we erect modern stands with all the facilities and equal Hospitalty opportunities that a new stadium would offer then I for one would be extremely happy. The ghosts and spirits of countless players past resides in this turf and there's something untangable, almost unidentifiable that we'd have to sacrifice if we moved.
I'm all for a modern and almost total redevelopment of the stands but to retain the playing surface that has been graced by legends for almost a century and a half would help to inspire future young players to don their Trinity shirts and tread in the footsteps of rugby Gods like Neil Fox and Jonty Parkin.'"
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| New stadium, be it NM or wherever, although this appears to be looking more and more unlikley.
Been going to Belle Vue 30 years. Take the nostalgia out of it and its a dump. Our dump admittedly, but a dump all the same. Access is poor, parking is poor, terraces are poor, facilities are poor etc etc
Im pretty certain that if the money is found to buy it back, there wont be much left over in any pot to do it up to a required standard or to the standard some are hoping for and thats before we have thought about buying the superbowl land as well.
I have my fingers crossed that something major can come out of all this YC/Community Trust thing but my head is telling me a positive result at this point would be the ground been bought from the BOI (to be owned by whoever??) and the old girl getting a lick of paint, until the next new stadium campaign comes around???
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| I take that back, its not actually our dump????!! 
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| I've voted for BV but either is on the whim of someone else for it to be achieved.
I just wished we hadn't been so badly run for so long so that any decision made we might have some financial say rather than taking what we can get.
Being totally honest, taking into account all the hard work of people like TRB, erstwhile professionals, eminent entrepreneurs, hapless club owners & unscrupulous developers over the last god knows how long; I can't see either of these coming off in the next ten years if at all.
Our best chance of improving BV comes off the back of the clubs fortunes changing both financially and administratively.
I still reckon it would take ten years but we would be the stakeholder in our own fortunes.
I'm fed up seeing promises made by good people who later have to retract them.
Back the club!!
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| Im not a new stadium fan and for me Newmarket s location was not the best. Durkar or Thornes park would have been great and when Newmarket came along it ticked the boxes for a new stadium but very little else.
If its to be a new stadium I hope we don't go down the route of whats been supplied at other clubs, for me I would like the club to look at a development that provides plenty of character while providing first rate facilities . Who says a new stadium must be covered on all sides.
B V if developed correctly would probably get my vote over Newmarket but not for a new stadium located away from Newmarket.
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| I think everyone is voting because the beer is in the city centre. You can still have a beer before the game and travel to newmarket they said special buses will be on and a taxi would just be around 6quid so with 3 of you in thats 2 pound each. I would be amazed if Belle vue gets developed anywhere near a acceptable standard STANDS,STEPS,TOILETS are shot. Newmarket would be far better to access easy for away fans, we may even steal some rhino fans as its a stone throw from Oulton and Rothwell. I cannot see how York Court can refuse us a ground we should be able to sue and say sorry no frozen food store or warehouses the ground was a law abiding contract, and should have been built first AS THEY PROMISED.
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| Quote newgroundb4cas="newgroundb4cas"I think everyone is voting because the beer is in the city centre. You can still have a beer before the game and travel to newmarket they said special buses will be on and a taxi would just be around 6quid so with 3 of you in thats 2 pound each. I would be amazed if Belle vue gets developed anywhere near a acceptable standard STANDS,STEPS,TOILETS are shot. Newmarket would be far better to access easy for away fans, we may even steal some rhino fans as its a stone throw from Oulton and Rothwell. I cannot see how York Court can refuse us a ground we should be able to sue and say sorry no frozen food store or warehouses the ground was a law abiding contract, and should have been built first AS THEY PROMISED.'"
They said lots of things.
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| It's about location for me also.
Newmarket is too far out and it depends what is built around it.
The KC is a perfect example of a family friendly ground, you can get to the ground nice and early and there is plenty for the younger end to do to keep them occupied outside the ground.
Then you have the AJ Bell that has nothing around it and once there you are stuck with what they have in the ground.
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| I am still a supporter if we stay at Belle Vue but like I said in the past I have fallen out with plenty of residents about this and I will have to live with warehouses and other crap in my village.I would have put up with it if the wakey ground was there. I will still go to town for a beer and then back to Newmarket it doesn't bother me.
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| Quote FickleFingerOfFate="FickleFingerOfFate"It's about location for me also.
Newmarket is too far out and it depends what is built around it.
The KC is a perfect example of a family friendly ground, you can get to the ground nice and early and there is plenty for the younger end to do to keep them occupied outside the ground.
Then you have the AJ Bell that has nothing around it and once there you are stuck with what they have in the ground.'"
5minutes in a car from town centre! Bang next to motorway junction?????????? Are we on drugs how is the location bad?
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