Can't get on this Salford love-in horse. Just see the violent Greg Johnson and the egomaniac MarwanK every time I think of them.



Hull or Leeds v Wigan for me.

Wigan? They will have to go some to make the top four. They are seven off with in effect 12 games to go.



Top three will be Cas, Leeds & Hull with us battling out for 4th with Salford & Saints. Suspect Saints might get there and then do Cas at Wheldon Road in the SF, before beating Leeds in the GF.



Then again, I could be talking complete b%@&^ks!

We're on about the Challenge Cup here mate.

I agree with the point but not the conclusion.

Both Wilkin and Shinfield said they felt that getting to the final and losing was the preparation you need to win it. It's hard to go all the way in one step.



So your point is the same.

However I feel Cas have already taken a step there.

They've been to Wembley and lost and they've been a game away from league leaders shield as well.

I think they are pretty certain for LLS.but I'd put good money on a grand final appearance too. Even if they don't win.

They are building something good there. They don't have to win the treble to achieve success.

So Wakey and Cas fans can celebrate together when they win nothing then?

Powell is one of the best coaches out there & this CC loss will only further focus them on the league. I can't imagine they won't win the LLS & expect them to be thereabouts come the Grand Final. Obviously a flurry of injuries to key players & forget the above!

It's all a matter of expectations. I'll be celebrating when we guarantee top 8.

Mathematically that is next game if we win or Catalan lose at Warrington. Wolves have too big a points difference to make up even if they win every game.



Then I'll celebrate our first win in the 8s.



Then I'll celebrate finishing as high as we do, preferably in the 4 but however that turns out it's a success.



I think Cas will want LLS as a minimum if not GF.

Why not works for Corbyn

For us, first things first; that win to guarantee SL, though I concede Catalans being 100% till the end of the season is unlikely. Looking at our run in, I always thought we'd struggle for a win in the last 6 or 7 matches and therefore needed the points in the bag up front, which gladly we got. I think this is a better team and squad than last year. But we shouldn't all start going nuts if we tail off with 1 or 2 wins in the last 5 matches. I think we will get 26 pts and I will be delighted with that. It is a shame that the comp is set up so that the est of the 8's is fairly pointless for us but hey ho, job will have been done. And we have definitely progressed on the pitch which is all you can ask for given our limitations of ground and crowd size

Why is it a shame how the 8's is set up? If you can't see yourself winning many of your next 5, what do you think you'll do against the other top 8 teams?



And personally don't know why you're playing down your chances in your next 5 games? Some tough ones but that's what being a top 4 team is all about winning tough games. Hull were good against Cas but it was only yesterday in hot conditions whilst you played on Thursday and Hull are very Jekyll and Hyde, close game that you could win. Games against Warrington and Widnes should be viewed as winnable for a side pushing for a top 4 spot and Saints haven't really excelled under their new coach so again another winnable game. Even Cas as great as they've been at home are beatable away, Hull twice, Salford and Saints all teams you're in the middle of beat them at home so why can't you?



I see no reason you couldn't grab 3 even 4 wins if you put the disappointment of the cup game behind you. Like I said if you want to be a top 4 team you shouldn't go into a period of games thinking you'll hardly win any.

Realistically we're not a top four team though. Everything was going alright when we hardly had any injuries but now we barely have 17 fit players and even half of them look absolutely knackered. Top 6 is still a realistic target and would be a fantastic achievement if we got it.

Doesn't take you long to wave the white flag.



IMO we are a top four team if we want to be - that was my original point. Everybody has injuries and everybody is knackered - we are no worse off than most.



It's all about attitude now, there is no excuse we've done the basics. I won't spit the dummy if we fade, but it doesn't have to happen.