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| Quote j.c="j.c"its been suggested elsewere that wakefields tax problems have been brought forward because of the way the rfl have dealt with wrexham crusaders going into admin.do you know if there is any truth in that ?.'"  we have to wait for the truth to be announced
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| Quote imwakefieldtillidie="imwakefieldtillidie"I'm of the opinion that no-one does a bad job on purpose. Yes, mistakes may have been made, but I'm sure the people running the club are hurting just as much as we are. I'm sure that when decisions had to be made, the people in charge did what they considered to be right at the time. They may look back and wish they had done things differently, but I'm sure everyone does at some point.
As for James Elston, the guy is Rugby League through and through, and there is no way he will want this on his CV. He too may have made mistakes, but I 100% believe he will be doing all he can to help the club.'"
Yes everyone does make mistakes, but when it is the same mistakes over and over again and they are unable to acknowledge that repeating the same mistakes is their fault, then ask the fans for GBP 500k in 3 weeks and suggest if you don't put in you don't care, then it will get peoples backs up
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| Quote Tricky2309="Tricky2309"Yes everyone does make mistakes, but when it is the same mistakes over and over again and they are unable to acknowledge that repeating the same mistakes is their fault, then ask the fans for GBP 500k in 3 weeks and suggest if you don't put in you don't care, then it will get peoples backs up'"
Yeah, and to be honest it got my back up too. I can't afford the £1000, but I still care. But for 2 of us to go to 10 games this season will cost me £400, so I'm not going to worry about my commitment too much. But I still don't believe people go to work to do a bad job on purpose. And I'm sure the majority of our problems started long before Elston came to the club.
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| Quote imwakefieldtillidie="imwakefieldtillidie"I'm of the opinion that no-one does a bad job on purpose. Yes, mistakes may have been made, but I'm sure the people running the club are hurting just as much as we are. I'm sure that when decisions had to be made, the people in charge did what they considered to be right at the time. They may look back and wish they had done things differently, but I'm sure everyone does at some point.'"
In my experience, people do a bad job for one of two reasons; conduct, or capability. The latter is rarely done on purpose, it's simply a fact that the person in question doesn't have the skills, capabilities and/or personal qualities to carry out the role.
Quote imwakefieldtillidie="imwakefieldtillidie"As for James Elston, the guy is Rugby League through and through, and there is no way he will want this on his CV. He too may have made mistakes, but I 100% believe he will be doing all he can to help the club.'"
Maybe that's the problem? I won't argue that he's RL through and through, but on the evidence I've seen, I don't think he's CEO through and through - if he was, this whole process would have been managed in a totally different way. It's a common mistake in RL, to put someone in a leadership position simply because they once played the game, when what's really required is a completely different skill-set.
When the dust settles, a new broom will be required.
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"In my experience, people do a bad job for one of two reasons; conduct, or capability. The latter is rarely done on purpose, it's simply a fact that the person in question doesn't have the skills, capabilities and/or personal qualities to carry out the role.
=#FF0000Maybe that's the problem? I won't argue that he's RL through and through, but on the evidence I've seen, I don't think he's CEO through and through - if he was, this whole process would have been managed in a totally different way. It's a common mistake in RL, to put someone in a leadership position simply because they once played the game, when what's really required is a completely different skill-set.
When the dust settles, a new broom will be required.'"
But if the £500,000 is raised, we are going to have fans calling the shots. Isn't that is what has got us in this mess in the first place? How many will vote with their head over their heart? I don't think I could.
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"
It's a common mistake in RL, to put someone in a leadership position simply because they once played the game, when what's really required is a completely different skill-set.
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tends to be the same in other sports too, many a mistake has been made by giving a position to someone because they was liked within the club
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| Quote imwakefieldtillidie="imwakefieldtillidie"But if the £500,000 is raised, we are going to have fans calling the shots. Isn't that is what has got us in this mess in the first place? How many will vote with their head over their heart? I don't think I could.'" that was my thoughts about the supporters trust, I haven't a clue how to start running a business but could put up the steelwork for the stadium no trouble,
we must have enough business men in our fan base that have the clout to get in there and sort the troubles out, at the end of the day we will still need someone that wants to run the club as a profit
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| Quote imwakefieldtillidie="imwakefieldtillidie"But if the £500,000 is raised, we are going to have fans calling the shots. Isn't that is what has got us in this mess in the first place? How many will vote with their head over their heart? I don't think I could.'"
I wouldn't argue that the new BoD, however it's constituted, will have a tough job on its hands when it comes to restructuring the club and appointing paid officers; I think you've simplified it a bit though to suggest that 'fans will be calling the shots' - there's a bit more to a Supporters Trust than that.
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"I wouldn't argue that the new BoD, however it's constituted, will have a tough job on its hands when it comes to restructuring the club and appointing paid officers; I think you've simplified it a bit though to suggest that 'fans will be calling the shots' - there's a bit more to a Supporters Trust than that.'"
theres a bloody site more to the share issue than that!!
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| Quote chapster="chapster"theres a bloody site more to the share issue than that!!'"
Than what? I'm not sure I follow...
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| Quote chapster="chapster"theres a bloody site more to the share issue than that!!'"
If I could afford the £1,000, I'd want the right to interfere with team selection 
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| Quote imwakefieldtillidie="imwakefieldtillidie"If I could afford the £1,000, I'd want the right to interfere with team selection
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wellyou couldnt do any worse, the jobs yours.
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