tell us how many times we've merged/murdered gateshead thunder?

I never said Wakey were a bigger club, I said that you seem to believe your club is "bigger" than it's record says it is.

We have under achieved massively for years and with the ground, support, shirts sold, profit made etc should be doing a lot better than we have but some of thats been down to the board and the coaches they have employed who have not been able to handle running a club of our size. Agar going to a smaller club (which you are however much you argue you are not) could be the making of him. On the other hand he may just be as crap as he at been with us.

No-one said Wakey were a big club.



They pointed out your delusion at thinking you are a big club.



Wigan and Leeds are big clubs. Hull are not.

Please don't.

Don't worry too much - we all have our divots.

Let's not selectively pick a convenient snapshot in time when assessing what constitutes a big club!



Historically Wakefield Trinity is as big if not bigger and more famous than Hull FC.



Back on topic...........

Very true and I agree with the other Wakefield posters who say Hull are the biggest underachievers in SL.



But at this convenient snapshot in time, surely the most die hard Wildcats fan would admit the weight of expectation you will place on your next coach will not be as heavy as what Hull FC's current coach has had to endure from us lot.



That's why I believe Agar will thrive in a slightly less pressurised environment and why he could be good for you if appointed.

I see where you're coming from and if everyone was being objective I would agree with you. The board's aim is mid-table next year so they are not going to put the same pressure on as Agar's replacement will have. The trouble is

a) fan's are not that objective and often want more than can be realistically achieved

b) all other teams who have not performed well this year will be aiming for the same. Not everyone will succeed so to really get mid-table we will have to do a LOT better than this year

c) if there is not that amount of improvement then the "establishment" in RL will see us over-promising and under-delivering again, which will harden their attitude rather than changing it.

That means the pressure is really on.



Often when someone takes on a top job for the first time they fail to a greater or lesser extent and the good ones learn a lot from it, making a success of their second jobs. We wait to see if that learing has taken place or whether they follow the rule of "promotion to their level of incompetence".

Good post. Interesting point you make about the governing body. I hope you make the 8 next year, think you will if you get more good signings in. If Agar does end up being your coach I'd imagine he would bring Obst and a few others with him.

Agar got promoted to Headcoach and cleared out a lot of deadwood players, this was a difficult task for any club...He then built a decent squad, and brought about some good ethics, he was not shy getting rid of deadwood like Tansey.

He has brought some good young players through, Briscoe & Houghton being the 2 that stand out the most.

Agar is a good coach for Wakey imo, he will build a squad, bring good ethics and most importantly he will have learnt a lot of lessons form his time as Headcoach at FC.



His results have been short this year but the brand of rugby we have started to play is very entertaining.



I wish Agar and yourselves the best of luck, I sincerely believe he will improve things for you.

Excellent post and if he is the coach I hope your right I will be backing him 100%