perhaps boris johnson is their chairman

I dont think most people realise how bad a state our sport is in, for me its ridiculous to say lets get a team going in Toronto and give them no money, If were having a go then back it 100 percent. For me it's a complete waste of time our game is 125 year old and we have never managed to get it into a working class, coal mining town 10 miles down the road in barnsley.

The amateur game is in bits teams are going to the wall and struggling for numbers season on season, times have changed you hardly see any kids on fields kicking or playing touch and pass and throwing the ball about. When you coach most kids now the majority of them have no basic knowledge of the game.

For me the game needs some interest we need the buzz of cas v wakey fev v cas and wakey to generate some interest. We need bradford back and we need teams like Halifax and Oldham proper rl areas to have some hope again.

Crowds are plummeting even in towns such as Wigan and none of the away teams supporters travel in the numbers they used to do. Quite simply rugby league is a dying sport with no one at the RFL capable of stopping it. We have got to generate interest the boxing day fixture should be made a 2 pointer and get these grounds full and some income coming in and sort international rl out, who the hell plans England v greece at bramall lane, morons at the RFL

Did read an article regarding the potential owner. Was honest in saying the last administration made a mess of things. He was asked the question is it Superleague or bust which he honestly replied it really is. The question that followed up should have been. If you do come back and are relegated first year what then? If he comes back with we will fold they should stop there and forget any expansion all together. To be honest if they do come back what players are going to sign for them players with little choice or players that don’t really care about the club. SBW may return as the money might be too good to walk away from

I agree with much of that without quite thinking the game is dying any more than any other sport right now.

My issue is that a derby between Cas and Wakefield will bring interest but not to the sport as a whole, only to the few thousand people in our area.

Bringing a Toronto or similar type team, if they can get the likes of SBW to play brings universal interest. It has to be done right. But at the end of the day if the sport is dying it is dying because of lack of money. Fev or Leigh (or even Wakefield) are not going to solve that issue. Toronto might.

Amazing as it may seem to you, I have other things in my life besides following you on this forum but I will try to keep up in future.

The real problem with dropping big name clubs into areas where RL has never been played is that they actually take from the clubs that are working so damned hard to sustain and build the game of RL in areas like Wakefield.



There is a best case scenario (magic bullet) where Toronto or New York gain huge exposure and motivate enough investors and kids to want to get involved in the sport and RL clubs start popping up all over the place and wouldn't that be great.

However, I know that Toronto have only been around for a short time, there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever of them wanting to do anything other than have a "headline" club and they actually spent just about all of their time over here.

Never were they truly Canandian and never did they make any strides to be Canadian.



Admittedly ,they did a fantastic job of getting bums on seats, something which many English clubs could learn from but, ultimately they were a name and not a "proper" club.



This scenario will kill the game over here.



If we trade an English club for a N. American club in SL, one for one, the whole lot starts to go down the plug hole.



For me, if the N. American experiment is to continue, there has to be some protection for the number of English clubs in the top flight or the whole shooting match in in jeopardy.

....because Fev lost the play off final....????

As we stand at the moment, you'd have to say might not.

Strange choice given that RL is played at a lower level in Barnsley.

As for working class mining town, not since 1986.....

Also your "10 mile" RL analogy doesnt really hold up when you look at Doncaster and a further 5 miles down the road, Sheffield.

Is that a question or a statement? if it's a question then why do you think I need four question marks, unless you just got over excited.

Fev lost in the final having overcome a couple of games in the money spinners, where as Toulouse came second in the regular season winning far more than Fev, my point being that putting favouritism to one side there are half a dozen clubs can argue they're point regarding their inclusion, just my opinion obviously.

ok then weve not managed to crack working class areas like, Barnsley Sheffield, and Doncaster and course the 10 mile anology stands up and 125 years later and it's a nothing game in south Yorkshire.

They are football towns and city

Whilst I generally disagree with your opinion on a lot of things on here, it is hard to disagree with any of that