I expected top 8 because IMO we have a squad that is good enough, I wouldn't give the team credit for losing because that signifies that losing is O.K, for the rest, apart from Cas away and Catalans at home there have been one or two pretty average performances and a few dire ones.

In a position where there is no relegation and we're pretty much out of the play offs did we need to spend money that we apparently haven't got on a mid season signing?

What we're spending on players wages is irrelevant as long as we're paying them, this squad has put some performances in this season that didn't deserve paying when, given the right attitude and intensity, they had the quality to win games.

IMO we have a good enough squad already to create a winning team at home, we just need a coach that can get the best out of them.

I predict a close scoreline and then Hull run away with it with benefit of the doubt tries awarded by an incompetent video ref

I don't see that; we have a decent squad but in relative terms, it is shallow and cheap - the only way we were going to finish in the top 8 was with another bit of luck and some freakish results; neither of those have happened, so we're dead set to finish roundabout where most sensible people thought we would.

As poor as London were last week, we struggled to get out of our own half without the aid of the referee because the ball never went past the first forward and we were too easy to read, it's a big compliment to our forwards that despite there only being one runner at a time they were still making good yards, the only time we became anything like expansive was in their 20/30m area, and even then we've got this obsession with constantly going to the short side, Ben Cockayne must have wondered why he was on the field last week because not matter how far to the right the play the ball was they still went to the right. It's almost as if the players think they aren't capable of passing the ball down the line.

My expectations of the team this season was that having had a full season to gel and a pre season on top of that, they would perform to the level that they did in the second half of last season, that isn't unreasonable given that they're full time professional players that don't do anything other than train and play the game and that in turn would have been good enough to get us in the play offs IMO.

I total agree with this!

Not unreasonable to expect a level of performance like at the back end of last year!

Yes we might have over archived last season!

But come no where near this year with a settled squad and a marque signing!

So we are under performing IMO! Why?

It don't matter how much you spend?

17 blokes against each other if u run harder and tackle harder your gonna win!

The axe falls with the coach!

If he can't get them to perform get someone who can!

I think that we will get a drubbing on Monday night. We won at home last week but come on be honest, if we played like that against a top 10 team we would have lost the game in the second half. Hard to say this but I think Cas have a better chance of a top 8 than us.

And that, in technical terms, is the biggest load of cack I've read on here in a while; of course it matters how much you spend. As for the second point - frankly, I'm baffled as to why you're not coaching a SL team - you appear to have cracked it!

So if it's all about how much you spend?

We can expect Salford to clean up next year??

I get me £ on them now then!!!!

It's how I see it.



I suppose it comes down to how much you rate our full squad of players. Obviously it's very subjective but personally I think we've got a similar squad in terms of quality to the likes Widnes & Bradford in terms of quality & probably not quite as good as HKR.



Atm we are competing for that 8th spot, so we can't be too far away from where we should be.

Whilst I agree with your sentiments, none of us have any idea what goes on within the squad week on week.

For instance, prior to the KR away fixture, Aiton was rumoured to be carrying an injury and he had a shocker and strangely he missed the following week with the exact injury that was rumoured a week earlier.

Was he persuaded to play by the coach, did he tell the coach he was good to go or, was he forced to play a game that he perhaps shouldn't have ?

None of us know the answers to these questions and each scenario will bring a different conclusion.

Regarding intensity and performance, most of us go to work for a living and have to carry out an amount of work in order to get paid.

Does everyone work at 100% all of the time throughout the week, no but, we expect the players never to make a mistake (and the coach for that matter)

We are where we are, not too far off what is possible, probably 7/10 if we were to give a score.

It's satisfactory but, could be better, lets hope we have a decent run to finish the season.

We should have beaten Huddersfield at home, Salford at home & Castleford at the Magic Weekend.





We should have an extra 5 points than what we've got which would put us at seventh (20 points) level with Hull but a game in hand on them. Instead we have to beat probable top 6 teams like Hull otherwise the season is over.





I don't see why we can't play to somewhere near the same level as we did end of last season (but we've not got anywhere near) especially when the pack has been bolstered with Poore & Tautai. Need Sykes to stay injury free which seems to be a factor and really click with Tim Smith.



If Castleford can beat Wigan away then we can beat Hull away.

Come on, you know as well as any other fan of RL that there's more too it than that, like the quality of you're junior structure and coaching. But I can't believe you're arguing that money doesn't matter in RL. All you have to do is look at teams like Warrington & Huddersfield who went from teams like ours, to one competing at the top just because of the influence of money.