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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"If they hadn't been propped up with half a million quid of donations, they might have gone sooner.'"
Yes i know, but when asked to help your club or they'll go bust it's hard not to. In hindsight maybe it would have been better for the money to go into the kitty for a possible new owner.
I think when a club's in financial difficulty it's hard not to help regardless of how you see the situation. Just like i will with Salford.
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| Perhaps if the Bulls withheld Sky money had been ring fenced for something more useful than the other clubs lining their own pockets the RFL could offer more support to Salford. Apparently all clubs have been informed that the RFL is unable to advance SL payments in 2013.
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| Quote Bully_Boxer="Bully_Boxer"Perhaps if the Bulls withheld Sky money had been ring fenced for something more useful than the other clubs lining their own pockets the RFL could offer more support to Salford. Apparently all clubs have been informed that the RFL is unable to advance SL payments in 2013.'"
Would have made more sense wouldn't it? I don't see the harm advancing money already due in the short term personally. Aslong as it's only done for a short time whilst for example a new buyer is preparing to take over.
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| Quote AdeleMC="AdeleMC"Quote AdeleMC="bren2k"If they hadn't been propped up with half a million quid of donations, they might have gone sooner.'"
Yes i know, but when asked to help your club or they'll go bust it's hard not to. In hindsight maybe it would have been better for the money to go into the kitty for a possible new owner.
I think when a club's in financial difficulty it's hard not to help regardless of how you see the situation. Just like i will with Salford.'"
But most wakey fans knew what was going to happen and posted on here at the time, guess bulls fans were blinkered
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| Quote djcool="djcool"But most wakey fans knew what was going to happen and posted on here at the time, guess bulls fans were blinkered'"
Oh apologies, the Bulls fans and the whole of the RL press must have missed the prediction of an EGM to oust the current board which effectively ended any possible investment after the pledge.
What that pledge DID do was bring together the whole club, from fans to players to coaches and officials. Personally I'm proud of how the whole club pulled together and we saw some of best rugby played in a long time. If we'd all sat back and said 'stuff the club, it's the directors problem' then none of last season would have happened.
Omar Khan bought the club because he saw that the Bradford community cared about the Bulls. Would he have been quite so keen to take us on without seeing such efforts from the fans? I doubt it.
The Wakefield fans need to move on, despite their disappointment that the whole club wasn't dismantled and players sold off for peanuts.
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| Quote Bully_Boxer="Bully_Boxer"Perhaps if the Bulls withheld Sky money had been ring fenced for something more useful than the other clubs lining their own pockets the RFL could offer more support to Salford. Apparently all clubs have been informed that the RFL is unable to advance SL payments in 2013.'"
It's a good job they didn't have that attitude when the Bulls first went to them with the begging bowl; if I recall correctly, the Odsal lease situation was precipitated by the RFL having loaned the Bulls a massive chunk of cash, of which they failed to pay back a penny piece? As financialtimes has explained, the RFL took action to resolve that situation and the dominoes began to topple.
Personally, I don't think that the governing body should be required to prop up failing businesses; they should however properly audit the finances of each club when they carry out the licensing process, to ensure that they're not handing a 3 year licence to a club that is built on sand.
As for moaning about what was done with the 'withheld' cash - I hardly think the Bulls are in a position to complain about that, given the lengths that the RFL and to varying degrees, the other SL Chairmen went to to keep them afloat.
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| Quote Bully_Boxer="Bully_Boxer"The Wakefield fans need to move on, despite their disappointment that the whole club wasn't sold off for peanuts and all our best players sold.'"
That's unfair and more than a little bitter; I don't think anyone wanted the Bulls to fail - rather, people were calling for parity in terms of how clubs are treated when in difficulty. I guess WTW fans had a more robust view than most, given that the season before the Bulls fiasco, our own club had been in a similar pickle and was pretty much hung out to dry.
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"That's unfair and more than a little bitter; I don't think anyone wanted the Bulls to fail - rather, people were calling for parity in terms of how clubs are treated when in difficulty. I guess WTW fans had a more robust view than most, given that the season before the Bulls fiasco, our own club had been in a similar pickle and was pretty much hung out to dry.'"
Perhaps unfair on some but there was some degree of revelling in our plight and a fair percentage came from this direction. I'm sure it wasn't the case from all Wakefield supporters but it was still evident.
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| Quote Bully_Boxer="Bully_Boxer"Perhaps unfair on some but there was some degree of revelling in our plight and a fair percentage came from this direction. I'm sure it wasn't the case from all Wakefield supporters but it was still evident.'"
I dont think that people were revelling in your plight at all.
Many of the comments on here were made due to the perceived preferential treatment thet the Bulls received, some of which was only found out after the brown stuff hit the fan. ie the loan that was given 2 seasons ago and then the utter nonesense of "iconic stadium", which many thought was the RFL trying to hoodwink the sport, which as we now know was a smokescreen for other issues.
No sportsfan wishes to see the game in such turmoil and we have certainly endured enough to last a lifetime but, neither do we want to be fed information with such a slant that you fall over whilst trying to glean the facts.
In hindsight, a little more honesty and transparency from all parties would have helped both your plight and your standing within the game.
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| Quote Bully_Boxer="Bully_Boxer"Perhaps unfair on some but there was some degree of revelling in our plight and a fair percentage came from this direction. I'm sure it wasn't the case from all Wakefield supporters but it was still evident.'"
As I recall it there was a lot of support and advice given, perhaps there was some imbitterment but that was when it became clear 1) our advice wasn't taken in the spirit it was given, and 2) when it became clear your club was being treat very differently to how we were in similar circumstances!!
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| Quote Bully_Boxer="Bully_Boxer"Perhaps unfair on some but there was some degree of revelling in our plight and a fair percentage came from this direction. I'm sure it wasn't the case from all Wakefield supporters but it was still evident.'"
I don't think there was any revelling; you're mistaking the anger that many people felt at the obvious preferential treatment the Bulls received for a desire to see you go under.
I don't think that anger is assuaged by the fact that many of your supporters are now crying foul about the 'withheld' monies - that seems a bit rich, given the help you received from the whole RL community. I'm sure for example that Messrs O'Connor and Hetherington would be gratified to see Bulls fans calling for the modest additional allocaion of central funds that SL clubs have received to be held back for 'better uses', given the significant financial assistance they both provided when the club was on the brink of collapse.
If I were a Bulls fan, I'd keep my head down and my gob shut.
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"I don't think there was any revelling; you're mistaking the anger that many people felt at the obvious preferential treatment the Bulls received for a desire to see you go under.
I don't think that anger is assuaged by the fact that many of your supporters are now crying foul about the 'withheld' monies - that seems a bit rich, given the help you received from the whole RL community. I'm sure for example that Messrs O'Connor and Hetherington would be gratified to see Bulls fans calling for the modest additional allocaion of central funds that SL clubs have received to be held back for 'better uses', given the significant financial assistance they both provided when the club was on the brink of collapse.
If I were a Bulls fan, I'd keep my head down and my gob shut.'"
I think some Bulls fans are miffed that not only did we receive the 6 points deduction but also received this 'new' penalty of losing half our Sky money for the next 2 years. Perhaps Wakefield should feel a little less hard done by now as well?
Perhaps that 1.2 Million might have been better spent plugging the funding gap from Sport England that will cost many development officers their jobs in the next year?
But the new owners are getting on with it and have just secured the largest sponsorship in SL history (take note RFL as we begin SL with no major sponsor on board) to help plug the shortfall. Omar Khan and his team have some ambitious plans for the club, I just hope he manages to deliver them.
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