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| Quote ComeOnYouUll="ComeOnYouUll"Garbage, it's nothing like that. The question is straight forward, who do you suggest Hull should make a move for?'"
It's exactly like that. I'm not in a position to speak to players agents so I don't know which players may have a desire to move if the price was right or even if we have the money to meet any demands
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"Are you suggesting that we should stick the berrigan money in the bank?
Is that based on anything other than a desire to be a smart ar$e?'"
No. I'm suggesting that making out that Sam Obst would be a replacement for Berrigan is daft at best. Berrigan's cash doesn't necessarily have to be spent on Berrigan's position.
Nice to see you dodging the question about who we might sign instead BTW.
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"It's exactly like that. I'm not in a position to speak to players agents so I don't know which players may have a desire to move if the price was right or even if we have the money to meet any demands'"
So you're admitting to criticising from a position of ignorance then?
Good oh.
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"For a start, there is no reason that the group should be limited to these players. I don't know who may have been available overseas when we had a chunk of salary cap and a quota space available. I don't know how much salary cap we now have so can't comment on whether we can afford any of those players. I don't know if we have a transfer budget to make a bid. I don't know what long term promises we can make to any player as I don't know what deals we may be looking at from 2012.'"
You said : "Are you suggesting that we should stick the berrigan money in the bank?". I'm agreeing with you that we must have money to spare given at one point we had Berro and Tansey on the cap, both have gone and we've only brought in Phelps. So we agree so far.
You think to be linked with Obst is a joke, so let's assume for now that to be linked with players at clubs finishing lower than us is equally silly. We have no overseas spots left. It's all very well to ridicule the club's efforts at recruitment, but you have to at least have a view on the options available. Which of the players listed, ie those from clubs finishing above our poor effort last year and which we can accommodate theoretically from a quota perspective, would you be pleased with and are realistic targets, assuming we would pay a fee?
Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"It's not my job to find the players. that's what rule et al are paid to do.'"
But you make it your business to slate their actions relentlessly. If you feel authoritative enough to critique each of their decisions, surely you are able to provide a credible alternative. I've listed as many eligible players from the top 5 as I can think of. Which would you advocate as realistic and credible targets to improve our squad? It's a reasonable question.
Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg" What I do know is that plenty of other clubs seem to have been able to bring in half backs and that finding one was supposed to be a priority 4 months or more ago.'"
Agreed. Disappointing.
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"No. I'm suggesting that making out that Sam Obst would be a replacement for Berrigan is daft at best. Berrigan's cash doesn't necessarily have to be spent on Berrigan's position.
Nice to see you dodging the question about who we might sign instead BTW.'"
Not dodging anything. If I were an official of the club then I'd be in a position to make enquiries. As I'm not then how can I say who we should have gone for if I don't know who may have been available? I could give some of the names and just get back that X club would never sell Y player. Neither of us would know if it were true or not
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"So you're admitting to criticising from a position of ignorance then?
Good oh.'"
Never stopped you or anyone else on here has it?
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"It's not my job to find the players. that's what rule et al are paid to do. What I do know is that plenty of other clubs seem to have been able to bring in half backs and that finding one was supposed to be a priority 4 months or more ago.'"
How many times, WE HAVE HALF BACKS!! We are looking for COVER!
C O V E R.
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| You said : "Are you suggesting that we should stick the berrigan money in the bank?". I'm agreeing with you that we must have money to spare given at one point we had Berro and Tansey on the cap, both have gone and we've only brought in Phelps. So we agree so far.
You think to be linked with Obst is a joke, so let's assume for now that to be linked with players at clubs finishing lower than us is equally silly. We have no overseas spots left. It's all very well to ridicule the club's efforts at recruitment, but you have to at least have a view on the options available. Which of the players listed, ie those from clubs finishing above our poor effort last year and which we can accommodate theoretically from a quota perspective, would you be pleased with and are realistic targets, assuming we would pay a fee?'"
I think the fact that we are scrabbling around days before the start of the season with only 1 scrum half, 1 (unfit) stand off and 1 hooker is a joke. I have never said that a player from a lower placed team than us is "silly". Those are your words trying to leverage your point. I'd happily take 3 or 4 creative players from crusaders, a couple from salford, at least one from quins, 1 from bradford, 2, maybe 3 from rovers and there are more examples. Of the players you listed then most would add to our squad, but not being a club official I can't make the necessary enquiries. The real issue here is that 2 or 3 years into agar's reign, we are still sat here without any decent half back cover. This isn't an issue that has suddenly appeared, it's been staring us right in the face since at least 2007
Quote Are you suggesting that we should stick the berrigan money in the bank?="Mrs Barista"But you make it your business to slate their actions relentlessly. If you feel authoritative enough to critique each of their decisions, surely you are able to provide a credible alternative. I've listed as many eligible players from the top 5 as I can think of. Which would you advocate as realistic and credible targets to improve our squad? It's a reasonable question.
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The club's officials have failed in their aim to bring in cover for our critical positions. they now presumably have a significant amount of salary cap to play with yet still don't seem able to do what plenty of other clubs can.
What would you suggest the reason for failure to do so is?
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| Quote tommyfromhull="tommyfromhull"How many times, WE HAVE HALF BACKS!! We are looking for COVER!
C O V E R.'"
AND 2 1/2 YEARS ON WE STILL HAVEN'T GOT ANY C O V E R
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"I'd happily take 3 or 4 creative players from crusaders, a couple from salford, at least one from quins, 1 from bradford, 2, maybe 3 from rovers and there are more examples.'"
Care to name any names? Would love to hear who you would bring into the squad that are so much better then Obst or the like.
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"AND 2 1/2 YEARS ON WE STILL HAVEN'T GOT ANY C O V E R'"
But we HAVE brought half backs in. Which you said we have failed to do so.
I agree, like most people, I would have liked us to sign half back cover. It has been stated that we have not yet finished in our recruitment. But I get the feeling people think we're going into the season with no half backs whatsoever! Long is in great shape and played well against Cas, Horney will be back in the next week or two.
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| Quote tommyfromhull="tommyfromhull"Care to name any names? Would love to hear who you would bring into the squad that are so much better then Obst or the like.'"
l'estrange, kearney, dobson, green, witt, shicofske, gale, dorn, hanbury, holdsworh off the top of my head who are more what we need than obst
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