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| Anyway as my OP said I think tonight was the beginning of the end for Agar and that reaction from the crowd will only grow and get worse and unless we go on a 4/5 game winning streak the board will eventually have to act.
I just hope they get the next appointment right.
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| Quote BP1="BP1"I've been away for a while, but it appears you've had a dramatic change of opinion. Only 6 months ago you said you were convinced Agar would lead us to silverware. I'm guessing your prediction of finishing 3rd this year has gone for a burton as well.
Without wishing to say "I told you so", there was a number of us on here who throughout last year remained steadfast in our opinion that the continued employment of Richard Agar as coach was leading this great club straight down a blind alley. We were shouted down last season by various Agar apologists (not just Mrs Berrigan who at least wears her heart on her sleeve) who endlessly pointed to "top 4 spot blah blah, improved league position blah blah" whilst remaining oblivious to the obvious that was staring them right in front of their faces.
I have posted on this board throughout Agar's tenure, always of the opinion that he was totally unsuited to the position of head coach at a club which should be aiming for the stars. I have always said that if my opinions were proved to be wrong and Richard Agar did indeed take us to the summit of the game then I would be prepared to take any brickbats that came my way. Reading this board tonight I feel my views are now vindicated along with various other posters who have long expressed doubts about our coach (Jake, Hullbg, Bones). I honestly and truly would have much preffered to have been proved wrong and to witness a Hull Fc side coached by Richard Agar doing a lap of honour around Wembley or Old Trafford, but I think we all know tonight it just simply isn't going to happen. Surely there can be no-one left willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Not even Staffs FC.'"
I had the same conversation with Wolfie tonight, about my change of heart. I wanted him to succeed as if he did then so did our team. I got sucked into the improvements and ignored the fact the players we brought in produced this and not so much the coach. However I caved in when even I could not ignore the interchanges etc...Wolfie also told me as much as he like Agar (which most do) he possibly realises he is not the man for the job, so you see in the end most of us got there 
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| Quote PAUL M="PAUL M".'"
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| Don't think Longy was the problem tonight, we created at least 5 clear cut scoring chances, we just bombed them.
Before tonight I was still fairly undecided over Agar. After that performance and a 200 mile round trip that's it for me, time for him to go.
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| Quote PAUL M="PAUL M"Anyway as my OP said I think tonight was the beginning of the end for Agar and that reaction from the crowd will only grow and get worse and unless we go on a 4/5 game winning streak the board will eventually have to act.
I just hope they get the next appointment right.'"
I think you're right Paul. Tonight we "crossed the Rubicon". There is no going back. It is now a matter of when rather than if. Will it be a quick mercy killing or death by a thousand cuts. For the sake of all our sanity, let it be the former.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, ACT NOW.
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| Quote berrigans bitch="berrigans bitch"I will introduce myself next time, and you will see I am not insane
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Okay will do.

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| Anyone know our completion rate from the game , Must be one of the poorest ever.
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| Quote berrigans bitch="berrigans bitch"I had the same conversation with Wolfie tonight, about my change of heart. I wanted him to succeed as if he did then so did our team. I got sucked into the improvements and ignored the fact the players we brought in produced this and not so much the coach. However I caved in when even I could not ignore the interchanges etc...Wolfie also told me as much as he like Agar (which most do) he possibly realises he is not the man for the job, so you see in the end most of us got there
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Tbh Wolfie has had this view for a while. That said he has always supported him.
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| Quote PAUL M="PAUL M"Tbh Wolfie has had this view for a while. That said he has always supported him.'"
He is being loyal to a friend which is understandable, and this should be respected and admired by others, not sure it will be on here though.
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| I’m waiting for the ‘Sweepstake for the next underwhelming Head Coach’ thread.
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| Quote berrigans bitch="berrigans bitch"I had the same conversation with Wolfie tonight, about my change of heart. I wanted him to succeed as if he did then so did our team. I got sucked into the improvements and ignored the fact the players we brought in produced this and not so much the coach. However I caved in when even I could not ignore the interchanges etc...Wolfie also told me as much as he like Agar (which most do) he possibly realises he is not the man for the job, so you see in the end most of us got there
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I too wish you had been right. Like I said, I would have preffered a scenario whereby I was eating humble pie cooked by posters such as yourself whilst we celebrated becoming Champions.
Whatever side of the fence we were on during this endless argument last year, I think we are all suffering tonight. It doesn't make me feel any better because of what I said last year. Tonight was garbage and the immediate future doesn't look any better. I'm pretty sure that you, me and every Black & White is in a despondent mood tonight.
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| Quote BP1="BP1" I'm pretty sure that you, me and every Black & White is in a despondent mood tonight.'"
Why do you think I am still up at this hour? 
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