Or a bit of both ? The league campaign has been a write-off if we're being honest and if we crash and burn early in the playoffs the question has to be answered. The defence has had more holes than a teabag most of the season and without Mcguire we look completely lost going forward. Today was a shocker that has unfortunately epitomized the regular season, God knows how Mcdermott and the players will turn it round this time. Answers on a postcard.

mainly the coach. clueless and not good enough

This is a mgmt issue - GH recruits the players and the coaches the buck stops with him.

Good point.

The squad. Leeds haven't made any marquee signings for a while. The teams above you all have better players and have made significant investments in their squad.

Good enough for what? We're current WCC champs, CC finalists, and in the same position as we were at this point last year when we won the biggest prize in the league.



Granted, what happens in the next few weeks will really dictate how good our season has been, and I don't know what the result of that will be.

Your letting a great team get too old.

I once again ask the question ... Name one of our regular established players who has improved under BMD ?

What was the answer to that question this time last year, and in early October last year?

Today we had a side who didn't want to get injured before the playoffs, and knew that, no matter what the result, they were finishing 5th, a point brutally brought home by the injury to Kirke. JP was the best forward on the park by a mile, but without Kirke & Delaney, the workload on Kylie, Ablett, JJB & Griffin increased a lot. This wasn't helped by a dismal defensive performance down the right by Watkins and, most of all, Ben-Jones Bishop. His defence, in-goal for George's try, or in play for the many Huddersfield breaks down their left, was appalling.



There are players (e.g. Scott Taylor) available who could make a big difference, and the signing of Mitch Achurch is a real positive for us. However, it's become clear that Moore (seemingly frozen out) and Hauraki (clearly not good enough) need to move to pastures new. Additionally, it's clear that some of the ickle kidies (Hood) aren't ready, and need to spend time playing regular open-age rugby. The rumoured loan of Hood, Briscoe, Olds & Keinhorst to Hunslet would, IMO, be beneficial for all parties.

That's the thing with time, you can't stop it. Our backs seem relatively young.

Good enough to compete on a regular basis against the better teams. Wigan scored 50 odd against us, Wire scored 30 odd against us in the league and C.C. Final, St Helens scored 40 odd against us, Catalans scored 30 odd against us and Huddersfield have now scored 40 odd against us. We are 5th for a reason, we have been consistently poor. Yes if we reproduce last seasons miracle I'll be eating some humble pie like everyone else, but watching my team this year has not been good for my health. Good enough to compete on a regular basis against the top teams is the short answer.