Good question , People protest....

Germany energy output is 17% via Nuclear,21% natural Gas/ France 75% via Nuclear.

UK is still heavily dependent on Fossil Fuels , attempts to increase energy production via nuclear in the 70's 80's met with a major anti nuclear lobby so was halted , now attempts to increase renewable via windfarms /off-shore wave has met again with protests wherever they're planned. now attempts to resource vast untapped natural gas reserves in shale , is being met with protests . people have got a decision whether they want to accept alternative energy ,more Nuclear, allow further exploitation of natural gas or pay vastly more for imported Natural gas & Fossil Fuels.



They're not doing surveys in London because there isn't a carboniferous shale bed under London , the NW & Flyde is one huge expanse of shale , there is also Jurassic oil Shale bed under Kent .

It's a good point you make and would add that (Due to my employment history) after September 11th the British Government agreed that due to most of our power coming from France (The majority of it) there was a real risk that successful terrorist targets against Power stations in France. Would result in most people in the UK having no Electricity at all for quite a long time. Threats exist against those places in France and the UK. It prompted the Government to quickly find solutions to become more self-sufficient which is why Wind farms and green-energy was boosted for the decade and more after 09/11. Gas reserves and Nuclear power are the only options at this late stage.



So a view of the wider picture is always worth having. Genuine alternatives still need to be found. It's all very well protesting something because it feels inherently dodgy, but when faced with the alternatives which are very bleak indeed, a change of thought process may be needed by a lot of people.

So that's where Germany gets 113% of it's energy from - what about the rest?

oh gawd, have they invaded AGAIN?

The French are scheduled to invade this fracking area on August 15th.



[size=85pedant area: Germany have never invaded us (apart from Hanoverian mistresses)[/size

more of a pedant area: nobody ever suggested that Germany had invaded us...

apart from the angles jutes and saxons , ( germanic tribes ) but thats for a different debate

The last time the dirty Hun had a go at these shores they got as far as this. www.bbc.co.uk/history/topics/occ ... el_islands The last people to have a pop at the mainland were the French in 1797. www.fishguardonline.com/Last_Inv.html Though both mobs were ultimately told too Frack off '=_

The last time the dirty Hun had a go at these shores they got as far as this. www.bbc.co.uk/history/topics/occ ... el_islands The last people to have a pop at the mainland were the French in 1797. www.fishguardonline.com/Last_Inv.html Though both mobs were ultimately told too Frack off '=_

Quote Michigan red="Michigan red"The last time the dirty Hun had a go at these shores they got as far as this. www.bbc.co.uk/history/topics/occ ... el_islands The last people to have a pop at the mainland were the French in 1797. www.fishguardonline.com/Last_Inv.html Though both mobs were ultimately told too Frack off '=_'" The French in 1797 might have succeeded if the defenses hadn't been improved following this incident a few years earlier - [url=http://www.whitehavenandwesternlakeland.co.uk/johnpauljones/raid.htmThe Only mainland attack ever on the UK by America[/url

Quote Michigan red="Michigan red"The last time the dirty Hun had a go at these shores they got as far as this. www.bbc.co.uk/history/topics/occ ... el_islands The last people to have a pop at the mainland were the French in 1797. www.fishguardonline.com/Last_Inv.html Though both mobs were ultimately told too Frack off '=_'" The French in 1797 might have succeeded if the defenses hadn't been improved following this incident a few years earlier - [url=http://www.whitehavenandwesternlakeland.co.uk/johnpauljones/raid.htmThe Only mainland attack ever on the UK by America[/url

Takes me back to a conversation I had with my ex father in law, his Mother was French and his Dad was Italian, I asked him if he was a soldier would he drop his gun and run away or just surrender.

I concur with Butcher, even a little exhibition on it on the Haven harbourside.



[url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/9653497/British-have-invaded-nine-out-of-ten-countries-so-look-out-Luxembourg.htmlBritain has invaded all but 22 countries in the world[/url

Can't see why that relationship didn't last.