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| Fixture overload is the biggest pile of cr@p I've ever heard.
A Super league player can play 27 league games, 5 CC games, 4 playoff games and 1 test match maximum before the Four Nations.
Thats 37 games max.
A NRL player can play 24 league games, 4 playoff games, 3 SOO and 1 test match before the Four Nations.
Thats 32 games max.
Now, consider the British player will be playing a test match against France and likely to playing semi-pro opposition in the CC, once, maybe twice or even 3 times. The NRL player will be playing a test again New Zealand, and 3 State of Origin games that nothing in Super League compares to in terms of intensity or toughness. And the average NRL game is harder than the average Super League games. Did the Crusaders fixtures really take anything out of the Leeds players last season?
All things considered, does fixture overload really exist?
I want someone to provide an argument that proves me wrong.
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| The key to the argument is when the season's both start. We start a full month and a half before the NRL season gets underway. A huge difference. May only be five matches on paper but its over a months less rest and body recovery. We aren't help either by our off season now being in the wet winter compared to their off season which is hot summer. Which climate would you prefer to train in during the off season???
Personally though I'd rather play more games - bring back some midweek cup action!
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| Perhaps, 2 rounds of fixtures per season could be midweek, each club plays 1 home and 1 away. Thats shaves 2 weeks off the season but retains the same amount of games.
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| Quote Bilko="Bilko"
Personally though I'd rather play more games - bring back some midweek cup action!'"
I'd love to see the return of midweek games, however it'd only be possible were squads to increase in size, similar to like they used to be, then the increase in games would be balanced out amongst the players.
I've always been in favor of limiting all players both homegrown and overseas to 25 games a year in all competitions, not only would it limit fatigue but it'd also allow youngsters to get there chance.
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| Fixture Overload....?
Now this is a Fixture Overload!!!!
Sun 10 Mar Challenge Cup QF: Bradford Home Won 32-2
Wed 13 Mar Hull Home Won 34-12
Sun 17 Mar Rochdale Hornets Away Won 44-16
Sat 23 Mar Challenge Cup Semi Final: Oldham Bolton Won 30-16
Tue 26 Mar Warrington Away Won 26-8
Fri 29 Mar Featherstone Rovers Away Won 24-16
Mon 1 April Oldham Away Won 10-4
Thu 4 April St Helens Home Won 28-14
Sun 7 April Castleford Home Won 24-4
Tue 9 April Widnes Home Won 26-6
Thu 11 April Bradford Northern Home Draw 18-18
Sat 13 April Leeds Away Won 20-8
12 games in a month!
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| Quote Bilko="Bilko" Personally though I'd rather play more games - bring back some midweek cup action!'"
Lancashire/Yorkshire cup return anyone?
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| Its all to do with the quality and length of the off season.
Firstly the NRL off season is far longer than ours, and further to this a major fatigue factor accumulates over time due to the English games reliance on the same core of players.
In the NRL there is far more competition for rep shirts and a higher turnover of players in the rep shirts, in England we rely on a core of 20 players for around 10 years, these players go season after season after season with little or no off season.
In Australis players like Lockyer are fixtures (but look at his injury record) but most drift in and out of the International team as form dips they come back once they have missed out due to the time they give there bodies to rest. Players like Morley, Fielden, Peacock, Senior, Burrow, Pryce, Wellens, etc etc etc go year after year with no preseason and eventually it takes it toll, but the simple fact is they are still superior to the gash that we could bring in, although with a bit of luck (very rarely in rugby league is it by good management) times seem to be changing as the core pool of players increases.
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| Quote LovesToSpooge="LovesToSpooge"I'd love to see the return of midweek games, however it'd only be possible were [size=150squads to increase in size[/size, similar to like they used to be, then the increase in games would be balanced out amongst the players.
I've always been in favor of limiting all players both homegrown and overseas to 25 games a year in all competitions, not only would it limit fatigue but it'd also allow youngsters to get there chance.'"
Increase the salary cap amount, dare I say
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"Fixture Overload....?
Now this is a Fixture Overload!!!!
Sun 10 Mar Challenge Cup QF: Bradford Home Won 32-2
Wed 13 Mar Hull Home Won 34-12
Sun 17 Mar Rochdale Hornets Away Won 44-16
Sat 23 Mar Challenge Cup Semi Final: Oldham Bolton Won 30-16
Tue 26 Mar Warrington Away Won 26-8
Fri 29 Mar Featherstone Rovers Away Won 24-16
Mon 1 April Oldham Away Won 10-4
Thu 4 April St Helens Home Won 28-14
Sun 7 April Castleford Home Won 24-4
Tue 9 April Widnes Home Won 26-6
Thu 11 April Bradford Northern Home Draw 18-18
Sat 13 April Leeds Away Won 20-8
12 games in a month!'"
I dont think now it would be even possible. We utilised 30 players that season getting at least 1 game each - 15 of them made 19 or more starting appearences, and towards the end of it some where physically falling apart and playing shot full of pain killers. I don't know if anybody could either fit enough players under the cap, or whether it's medically allowed to the same extent either anymore.
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| Quote jonh="jonh"Its all to do with the quality and length of the off season.
Firstly the NRL off season is far longer than ours, and further to this a major fatigue factor accumulates over time due to the English games reliance on the same core of players.
In the NRL there is far more competition for rep shirts and a higher turnover of players in the rep shirts, in England we rely on a core of 20 players for around 10 years, these players go season after season after season with little or no off season.
In Australis players like Lockyer are fixtures (but look at his injury record) but most drift in and out of the International team as form dips they come back once they have missed out due to the time they give there bodies to rest. Players like Morley, Fielden, Peacock, Senior, Burrow, Pryce, Wellens, etc etc etc go year after year with no preseason and eventually it takes it toll, but the simple fact is they are still superior to the gash that we could bring in, although with a bit of luck (very rarely in rugby league is it by good management) times seem to be changing as the core pool of players increases.'"
Nail on the head. Short off season, smaller group of player, middle of winter. It's not a great combo for preparation for the following season.
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| Quote Steve Ella's Beard="Steve Ella's Beard"I dont think now it would be even possible. We utilised 30 players that season getting at least 1 game each - 15 of them made 19 or more starting appearences, and towards the end of it some where physically falling apart and playing shot full of pain killers. I don't know if anybody could either fit enough players under the cap, or whether it's medically allowed to the same extent either anymore.'"
The final week was a killer,
Sun 7 April Castleford Home Won 24-4
Tue 9 April Widnes Home Won 26-6
Thu 11 April Bradford Northern Home Draw 18-18
Sat 13 April Leeds Away Won 20-8
Day on, day off, day on day off. 
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"The final week was a killer,
Sun 7 April Castleford Home Won 24-4
Tue 9 April Widnes Home Won 26-6
Thu 11 April Bradford Northern Home Draw 18-18
Sat 13 April Leeds Away Won 20-8
Day on, day off, day on day off.
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Aye it was madness at the time, but very exciting as a fan during that period.
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