You get very tetchy when your views are challenged

You get very tetchy when your views are challenged

Not really, what views are you challenging?



That the floodlights were cheaper due to the use of the existing structure? That’s not a view it’s the truth.



You’re just flapping now because you’ve lost a non existent argument, one that exists mainly in your head.

Views well let's see the electrical gear, housing boxes which were your main theme of the 'we have saved thousands' claim, not facts a claim. The foundations were found to be sound when the original survey was carried out so was never included in the price for replacing the floodlights.



I still believe you get tetchy

So I take it the planning has been delayed with no date set after cancelled date?



To be honest I don’t think the planning is an issue. I’m far more concerned that the developer won’t contribute any funds to cover the development. There was a rumour that the developer was trying to wriggle away from their financial contribution then Mynards said we would walk away dependent on discussions.



It’s all guesswork really but if there’s no agreement after all this time with the developer on providing funds I personally expect us to get nothing.

Same here, Yorkcourt are the worry.

Read on the other forum that YC or Henry Boot have the contract to construct the new stand. The budget is capped at £8m or so regardless of the output. The fear from the poster was that they could over value what they do to max out the budget without doing much at all.



If this is true we need to spend some money on an independent QS who can ratify what the costs are and much sure they are market rates.



I agree with the others, they are where this whole thing will fall down if its going to. Whilever they are involved they I will never trust them

I can't believe we are still dancing with the devil

this will only end in tears

I’m afraid I’m as sceptical. I hope I’m wrong because if we do get this stand/pitch/north stand/car park done I think it will secure our long term future and lead to far greater income streams. It should have a snowball effect and bring in opportunity for further development.

Who else are we going to dance with?



There is no alternative.



With YC it might end in tears, without them it won’t even start.

If after multiple months of discussions before planning and after submission between Trinity and YC (maybe WMDC?) haven’t yielded any agreement for funding by now then it’s unlikely they will.



The developer meanwhile have got further planning on the land at Newmarket.



I really hope I’m wrong but if we haven’t yet secured funding it’s looking ominous. At one of the early Q and As didn’t they say that they were aiming to secure funding/discussing it before the planning was even submitted? I may be wrong there though. Planning has been submitted and I’m sure there will be reliable estimations on costings available so I’d like to think it’s all sorted and we aren’t still fighting a for said funding.



The trinity board must be pulling their hair out.

You don't know that, sorry but you don't.



I get your concern but that's not how this deal works. The monies simply cannot be transferred until planning permission is passed.



I detest YC but even I wouldn't expect them to hand over the funding without the above, would you?



I keep saying this but the NM planning is only a small part of this deal, it's a wee bit more complex than just that. Even if I was free to tell you how it works I'm not sure I could, I'll be honest it's a bit beyond me. I'm only reasonably happy with the deal because TRB seemed to get it!



As for the amount, yes that is fluid and dependent on the economy, timing will affect the amount by a small degree, that's just reality. Even if we only get say 5 million it's still a triumph, where else would Trinity pick up that amount of cash? It's far less than we deserve but it's gone beyond that now, now anything is a win.



As someone who's been involved since 2004, it seems to me to be the closest we have ever been to getting something but I couldn't in all conscience say I'm certain. Keep the faith is all I can say, MC and JM are nobody's fools, I think we all agree on that, they are not going to be hoodwinked and they do have some decent leverage at their disposal.



PS: There is nothing sinister about the delayed planning, it's purely Covid related, on this one I think it's fair to say Trinity is NOT the victim of a scam.