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| Think we need to establish that the days of using Horne, and Sharp, as a scapegoat are over.
Westerman was crap against wire. 
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| I think we all need to forget about the last four seasons and who under performed etc and look forward to the future under the new owner, coach, players and staff. If in one or two seasons time nothing's changed then let's go mad, however under the ownership of AP and the coaching of PG I can already see big changes and the future looks promising.
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| If Horney carries on performing like he has the last 2 games I will be more than happy, consistency is the key for me some-thing he has lacked for several years, I hope the fact he has players waiting in the wings to get a shot and a new coach will help Horney to establish that much needed consistency.
I agree with the OP we should not be playing injured players or a player just for the sake of his name. I am hoping Gentle makes players earn their right to play! IMO that is the recipe to success.
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| Quote Marfa Manu="Marfa Manu"If Horney carries on performing like he has the last 2 games I will be more than happy, consistency is the key for me some-thing he has lacked for several years, I hope the fact he has players waiting in the wings to get a shot and a new coach will help Horney to establish that much needed consistency.
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As has been pointed out, there are several obvious reasons for his lack of consistency.
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| Quote Rock God X="Rock God X"As has been pointed out, there are several obvious reasons for his lack of consistency.'"
I personally do not consider them reasons, I consider them opinions....
Like mentioned I have been one of Horney's harshest critics,however I am more than happy with his present performance, and sincerely hope he can maintain this standard.
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| why do some feel the need for a scapegoat anyway.its hardly constructive and hammering a player for a bad game is not going to instil him with confidence is it.if a player is consistently bad the coach will see it.
my main concern is that we play play players in their correct position,even if it means playing a youth team player,and not putting square pegs in round holes.
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| Quote Marfa Manu="Marfa Manu"
I personally do not consider them reasons, I consider them opinions....
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It's an opinion that he has been played at 7 a lot of the time when he's really a 6? It's an opinion that he's had to organise the side when that's not his natural game? It's an opinion that he's had to do most of the kicking when he's not got a great long range kicking game? Wow.
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| Quote Marfa Manu="Marfa Manu"
Like mentioned I have been one of Horney's harshest critics,'"
And yet you will hardly hear a word said against Jordan Turner who has yet to prove himself to be even a fraction of the player Richard Horne is. Maybe Turner has a nicer bottom, eh?
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| Quote Rock God X="Rock God X"And yet you will hardly hear a word said against Jordan Turner who has yet to prove himself to be even a fraction of the player Richard Horne is. Maybe Turner has a nicer bottom, eh?'"
Bit rich....maybe if I championed Whiting you would not resort to childish comments ?
Although for the record I rate Whiting very highly, much higher than Horney who is imo an [uaverage[/u h/back and would not get into a lot of the top teams. Like you point out he is not an organizer, not a long range kicker....He is a support player with a decent short kick, overall average.
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| Quote Marfa Manu="Marfa Manu"Quote Marfa Manu="Rock God X"And yet you will hardly hear a word said against Jordan Turner who has yet to prove himself to be even a fraction of the player Richard Horne is. Maybe Turner has a nicer bottom, eh?'"
Bit rich....maybe if I championed Whiting you would not resort to childish comments ?
Although for the record I rate Whiting very highly, much higher than Horney who is imo an [uaverage[/u h/back and would not get into a lot of the top teams. Like you point out he is not an organizer, not a long range kicker....He is a support player with a decent short kick, overall average.'"
This has already been covered in depth a few pages ago. Most clubs have one organising halfback and one supporting/running halfback. He does what most players in his position do and, when he has a steady halfback partner, he does it well.
And if you can't see the irony in your constant knocking of Horne whilst jumping to Turner's defence every two minutes, there's no hope. I know who has given the club better value over the past few seasons, and it's not Turner.
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| When Horney has an off week, some posters on here will have their socks out. Pathetic.
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| Quote tommyfromhull="tommyfromhull"When Horney has an off week, some posters on here will have their socks out. Pathetic.'"
Yeah, you can see it now. He'll have one bad game, and they'll all be calling for his head.
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